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But hey, I can spend until August just catching up on what they've given us so far.

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But hey, I can spend until August just catching up on what they've given us so far.

That's my stance as well. I am so grateful for the three releases so far that it's alright to me if they relaese a recent Vegas era show. It seems to make a lot of people happy here so I am glad for them, even though I personally skip this one. I didn't buy A BIGGEST BANG DVD, nor SHINE A LIGHT in any form, so a show without a footage obviously will not turn me on (I want to see Lisa).

Of those clips (I never seen them earlier, thanks!). They are formally speaking alright - do they add guitar dubs also to a bootleg? - but for some reason they leave me cold. There is something there missing that I miss in "my" Stones. Sounds almost like listening to some different band than I have loved all my life. I kind of liked the "blues brothers" sound as it was first offered in FOUR FLICKS DVD's theatre show, but I can't say I am now that happy with it. It surely presents an original form of "Vegas era" sound, and not just typical "copy the originals with big band" policy but I just can't get connected to it (it is not the faceless army of players but also Jagger's non-nuanced vocals sound so forced and weak to my ears. I think Jaggers sings rather boringly in both clips. Charlie is good though,)

But I won't waste more space here to spoiling the party for a product that I will not purchase.

- Doxa

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beside the fact that this is a completely unknown shown, that wasn't available before:
can it get any worse ? I doubt it !

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We should not forget that even on this board, amongst the hard core fans, the BB-tour was voted as the all time best Stones-tour.

That's only because it's the one everyone saw.

According to people on this board, many didn´t bother...

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But hey, I can spend until August just catching up on what they've given us so far.

That's my stance as well. I am so grateful for the three releases so far that it's alright to me if they relaese a recent Vegas era show. It seems to make a lot of people happy here so I am glad for them, even though I personally skip this one. I didn't buy A BIGGEST BANG DVD, nor SHINE A LIGHT in any form, so a show without a footage obviously will not turn me on (I want to see Lisa).

Of those clips (I never seen them earlier, thanks!). They are formally speaking alright - do they add guitar dubs also to a bootleg? - but for some reason they leave me cold. There is something there missing that I miss in "my" Stones. Sounds almost like listening to some different band than I have loved all my life. I kind of liked the "blues brothers" sound as it was first offered in FOUR FLICKS DVD's theatre show, but I can't say I am now that happy with it. It surely presents an original form of "Vegas era" sound, and not just typical "copy the originals with big band" policy but I just can't get connected to it (it is not the faceless army of players but also Jagger's non-nuanced vocals sound so forced and weak to my ears. I think Jaggers sings rather boringly in both clips. Charlie is good though,)

But I won't waste more space here to spoiling the party for a product that I will not purchase.

- Doxa

OK, Doxa, The Rolling Stones today are not The Rolling Stones from the sixties or seventies. And Mick's voice has changed over the five decades. But what's still going on: The poor crying by fan[atic]s over the past or the lost time ...

But I see your last words with satisfaction: you'll not waste more space [and time] spoiling the party of that kind of fans who don't live in the past only and who can still enjoy the continuing lifes of The Rolling Stones ...

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But hey, I can spend until August just catching up on what they've given us so far.

That's my stance as well. I am so grateful for the three releases so far that it's alright to me if they relaese a recent Vegas era show. It seems to make a lot of people happy here so I am glad for them, even though I personally skip this one. I didn't buy A BIGGEST BANG DVD, nor SHINE A LIGHT in any form, so a show without a footage obviously will not turn me on (I want to see Lisa).

Of those clips (I never seen them earlier, thanks!). They are formally speaking alright - do they add guitar dubs also to a bootleg? - but for some reason they leave me cold. There is something there missing that I miss in "my" Stones. Sounds almost like listening to some different band than I have loved all my life. I kind of liked the "blues brothers" sound as it was first offered in FOUR FLICKS DVD's theatre show, but I can't say I am now that happy with it. It surely presents an original form of "Vegas era" sound, and not just typical "copy the originals with big band" policy but I just can't get connected to it (it is not the faceless army of players but also Jagger's non-nuanced vocals sound so forced and weak to my ears. I think Jaggers sings rather boringly in both clips. Charlie is good though,)

But I won't waste more space here to spoiling the party for a product that I will not purchase.

- Doxa

OK, Doxa, The Rolling Stones today are not The Rolling Stones from the sixties or seventies. And Mick's voice has changed over the five decades. But what's still going on: The poor crying by fan[atic]s over the past or the lost time ...

But I see your last words with satisfaction: you'll not waste more space [and time] spoiling the party of that kind of fans who don't live in the past only and who can still enjoy the continuing lifes of The Rolling Stones ...

I don't get you. I don't buy the new stuff because I don't like it enough; it just doesn't interest/excite me enough. It is a question of personal taste. I don't have any duty to like/buy anything, anytime this band has ever done, even though the band has given me more pleasure than any music act ever. Is that so hard to accept? That makes me "crying over the past or the lost time""? Strange logic. Maybe that makes me not "real" or "right kind" of "fan" in your book. Never like the term "fan" anyway. You can keep it.

Nice I could you give "satisfaction", by the way. My pleasure.

- Doxa

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Why so many IORRians tell us again and again, they don't buy this or that now?

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Why so many IORRians tell us again and again, they don't buy this or that now?

This is the same thing I always wonder. I get that people don't like certain periods, but why do they feel such a desperate need to tell us over and over again? Why do they think it's interesting to post that they are not going to buy something, like it's a badge of honor? It's boring. There are literally trillions of things I don't buy every day.

I'm looking forward to this and all of the remaining archive releases. It's better than nothing. I never thought they'd do it. I also like to read/listen to things before I decide if they are good or not.

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But hey, I can spend until August just catching up on what they've given us so far.

That's my stance as well. I am so grateful for the three releases so far that it's alright to me if they relaese a recent Vegas era show. It seems to make a lot of people happy here so I am glad for them, even though I personally skip this one. I didn't buy A BIGGEST BANG DVD, nor SHINE A LIGHT in any form, so a show without a footage obviously will not turn me on (I want to see Lisa).

Of those clips (I never seen them earlier, thanks!). They are formally speaking alright - do they add guitar dubs also to a bootleg? - but for some reason they leave me cold. There is something there missing that I miss in "my" Stones. Sounds almost like listening to some different band than I have loved all my life. I kind of liked the "blues brothers" sound as it was first offered in FOUR FLICKS DVD's theatre show, but I can't say I am now that happy with it. It surely presents an original form of "Vegas era" sound, and not just typical "copy the originals with big band" policy but I just can't get connected to it (it is not the faceless army of players but also Jagger's non-nuanced vocals sound so forced and weak to my ears. I think Jaggers sings rather boringly in both clips. Charlie is good though,)

But I won't waste more space here to spoiling the party for a product that I will not purchase.

- Doxa

OK, Doxa, The Rolling Stones today are not The Rolling Stones from the sixties or seventies. And Mick's voice has changed over the five decades. But what's still going on: The poor crying by fan[atic]s over the past or the lost time ...

But I see your last words with satisfaction: you'll not waste more space [and time] spoiling the party of that kind of fans who don't live in the past only and who can still enjoy the continuing lifes of The Rolling Stones ...

I don't get you. I don't buy the new stuff because I don't like it enough; it just doesn't interest/excite me enough. It is a question of personal taste. I don't have any duty to like/buy anything, anytime this band has ever done, even though the band has given me more pleasure than any music act ever. Is that so hard to accept? That makes me "crying over the past or the lost time""? Strange logic. Maybe that makes me not "real" or "right kind" of "fan" in your book. Never like the term "fan" anyway. You can keep it.

Nice I could you give "satisfaction", by the way. My pleasure.

- Doxa

Why so many IORRians tell us again and again, they don't buy this or that now? So many fans here have bought so much very expensive and low quality bootlegs and waisted so much money and time to listen to those mostly horrible sounds. There is no need to buy anything from The Rolling Stones official releases. But why the hell crying about it so laudly, again, again and again?

Nearby The Rolling Stones gather about 11.000.000 followers on facebook in current time.

Is this board here now for crying about and bashing The Rolling Stones only?

Why is it so hard to say: "Thank You" to The Rolling Stones?

But I still live in hope ...

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Why so many IORRians tell us again and again, they don't buy this or that now?

This is the same thing I always wonder. I get that people don't like certain periods, but why do they feel such a desperate need to tell us over and over again? Why do they think it's interesting to post that they are not going to buy something, like it's a badge of honor? It's boring. There are literally trillions of things I don't buy every day.

I'm looking forward to this and all of the remaining archive releases. It's better than nothing. I never thought they'd do it. I also like to read/listen to things before I decide if they are good or not.

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It's better than nothing.

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Why so many IORRians tell us again and again, they don't buy this or that now?

This is the same thing I always wonder. I get that people don't like certain periods, but why do they feel such a desperate need to tell us over and over again? Why do they think it's interesting to post that they are not going to buy something, like it's a badge of honor? It's boring. There are literally trillions of things I don't buy every day.

I'm looking forward to this and all of the remaining archive releases. It's better than nothing. I never thought they'd do it. I also like to read/listen to things before I decide if they are good or not.

Well , i think everybody here can give his opinion, it's the reason of
the existence of this forum.,and i don't find it's boring to read this or that
If we don't want to read something we are not forced to, and we have to accept
all the opinion

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like seeing turds under the Christmas tree and believing you're getting a pony.

.....well it could be a Shitland Pony...

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Why so many IORRians tell us again and again, they don't buy this or that now?

This is the same thing I always wonder. I get that people don't like certain periods, but why do they feel such a desperate need to tell us over and over again? Why do they think it's interesting to post that they are not going to buy something, like it's a badge of honor? It's boring. There are literally trillions of things I don't buy every day.

I'm looking forward to this and all of the remaining archive releases. It's better than nothing. I never thought they'd do it. I also like to read/listen to things before I decide if they are good or not.

Well , i think everybody here can give his opinion, it's the reason of
the existence of this forum.,and i don't find it's boring to read this or that
If we don't want to read something we are not forced to, and we have to accept
all the opinion

I'll second keith56 here. Even though I understand the point of the criticism offered by HighwireC and lamemodem2, I think it is over-reacted at least in this very thread. There is no so many expressing their disinterest or disappointement to this product. And even if there are, it is well justified. We have all followed the bootleg series with high interest, and so giving an opinion of a new product is expected here (that's what I thought: it felt like almost a duty to say something). All opinions matter. That's why this forum is interesting to follow.

Frankly, I tried to be as diplomatic as I can in my first post, knowing the sentiments of likes of HigwireC (and especially seeing the enthusiasism shared by many for this release in this thread). I seemingly failed.

- Doxa

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I don't want to come across as a cranky old codger because I'm not interested in a concert from a tour I just saw. And the Stones themselves put out an excellent DVD compendium called The Biggest Bang. The absolute only missing thing is 'Back of My Hand', which was a killer for those of us who were lucky enough to see the earlier shows in 2005. It's just that the band has such a long, rich history, and this is the 50th Year, and so, come on, give us the BBC tapes. Or the IBC tapes, or Leeds. Chess outtakes. God I'm a greedy man.

Wouldn't it be great if this is a hoax, and that the release is something else entirely?

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I am with you, Doxa, as one of those who is disappointed that they are using one of the 6 on a Bigger Bang show. However, I will hold judgement until I actually HEAR it. For the reasons I mentioned above, I think it has potential to be at the very least pretty good.

I just don't get poo-poo-ing something that hasn't even been heard yet! I will roll the dice and risk the $4.99! Hey, if it comes out and there are 40 pages on a thread talking about how great it is, you can always break down and grab it!

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Why so many IORRians tell us again and again, they don't buy this or that now?

This is the same thing I always wonder. I get that people don't like certain periods, but why do they feel such a desperate need to tell us over and over again? Why do they think it's interesting to post that they are not going to buy something, like it's a badge of honor? It's boring. There are literally trillions of things I don't buy every day.

I'm looking forward to this and all of the remaining archive releases. It's better than nothing. I never thought they'd do it. I also like to read/listen to things before I decide if they are good or not.

Well , i think everybody here can give his opinion, it's the reason of
the existence of this forum.,and i don't find it's boring to read this or that
If we don't want to read something we are not forced to, and we have to accept
all the opinion

I'll second keith56 here. Even though I understand the point of the criticism offered by HighwireC and lamemodem2, I think it is over-reacted at least in this very thread. There is no so many expressing their disinterest or disappointement to this product. And even if there are, it is well justified. We have all followed the bootleg series with high interest, and so giving an opinion of a new product is expected here (that's what I thought: it felt like almost a duty to say something). All opinions matter. That's why this forum is interesting to follow.

Frankly, I tried to be as diplomatic as I can in my first post, knowing the sentiments of likes of HigwireC (and especially seeing the enthusiasism shared by many for this release in this thread). I seemingly failed.

- Doxa

Don't take it personally, Doxa. I don't want to hurt you. But I'm a little bit pissed off by all those posters who declare again and again and again how bad The Rolling Stones are nowadays. OK, I feel disappointed too, sometimes. But there is no need in crying. I'm not a fanatic fan, hope I'm a realistic one.

And btw. I don't ask for to much enthusiasm, I found it very hard to follow all those "I've got a ticket now!"-threads here, too. But these days are gone for a while now, unfortunately.

And yes, I'll live in hope, still ...

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I think it says a lot that they are releasing this SPECIFIC show...it just goes to how special even they think they it is. Considering, they themselves (Mick, specifically) know exactly what standard they're working with now considering the first three releases they've released--I think we should expect something very cool out of this--otherwise it wouldn't be released.

ABB left a huge bad taste in everyone's mouth but as I mentioned earlier, this tour started off with a different band that ended it. I mean, let's remember the great moments like Saitama. A wonderful show. Well, this release is the first performance of the tour...the rehearsal gig...right before all the BS starts to settle in where Keith and Mick and whomever goes through the motions and starts phoning it in. The earlier to catch the Stones in the tour--the better. They're excited and actually invested in playing. These are their first shows in after their hiatus--you can tell they're having a great time.

I absolutely love the first few shows of any tour--even the Vegas ones. That's the only time I see the real Stones again. When they're unpolished and sloppy. You just don't get that by the time they're in their 30th or 50th show. They smooth out all the wrinkles and that's when Vegas Stones rears its ugly head.