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I agree. Paint-by-the-numbers generic rock. It doesn't even sound like a Rolling Stones record.
Bookended by the excrement of Undercover (excepting the title track) and the coming apart at the seams of Dirty Work? Low standards, but you might have a point.
EXACTLY!! Keith's fingerprints are nowhere to be found. This sounds like a leftover from Dogshit in the Doorway.
Drew
That's a first. What you smokin' boy?
People's lack of appreciation for UC never ceases to amaze me. It contains their most fully realized reggae track, their most vicious funk rock workout and just some great rock n roll-"She Was Hot", "All The Way Down," and "Too Tough (a reworked Cellophane Trousers). It's edgy, experimental, is full of great Wood/Richards guitar interplay and holds up well nearly three decades later.
The last Stones single I bought? RAIN FALL DOWN. (For the remixes not on the album.)
The last single by anyone? PARADISE by Coldplay (from their 2011 album Mylo Xyloto).
Good post. Undercover is an under recognized gem. The relative commercial failure seems to have sent Jagger and consequently the Stones on a different arc - one that I have liked a lot less. The fractious critical appeal of Undercover seems to have informed Jagger that a less creative but broader portfolio approach to creating an album is more favorable to the band's commercial success. No wonder everything since then has been formulaic.
I suddenly like the song more now that I've seen the video LOL
Excellent post, wanderingspirit66 ... agree entirely with what you wrote except for the "everything" part ... IMO, there have been some non-formulaic masterpieces amidst the dross, such as "Thief in the Night" and "Laugh, I Nearly Died".
Drew
Individual songs still hold a lot of appeal for me. But the band and the subsequent albums are either formulaic or bi-partite. The formulaic Voodoo Lounge doesnt work for me. The bi-partite Bridges to Babylon works better for me. The two examples you point to are "solo" efforts within the Stones brand. The solo albums hold a lot more appeal for me (Primitive Cool not withstanding). There are a few good Jagger/Richards songs - even great ones but the signature Jagger/Richards riff driven rock-n-roll is nothing but formulaic and embarrassing e.g. Flip the Switch.. You got me rocking.. I go wild...
All said - I love both Let me Down Slow and It won't Take Long.
Yes! One of my favs off the album.
Didn't know you asked.
Don't Stop was the last single I bought.
Well, on a good day.
peace
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Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
loog droog
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Date: May 30, 2012 02:37
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drewmaster
To my ears this song is as dull as dishwater and contributes to ABB being such a disappointment overall.
I agree. Paint-by-the-numbers generic rock. It doesn't even sound like a Rolling Stones record.
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
24FPS
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Date: May 30, 2012 02:42
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KeithNacho
ABB is a great work. This album in 1984 -85 surely could have been much more appreciated
Bookended by the excrement of Undercover (excepting the title track) and the coming apart at the seams of Dirty Work? Low standards, but you might have a point.
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
vertigojoe
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Date: May 30, 2012 03:16
Who buys singles now? No point talking about singles. They haven't been a singles band for over 30 years. I challenge anyone on this board to tell me the last single they bought! I know I can't remember what it was.. Oh hang on! It was the Mixed Emotions 12"..
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
Naturalust
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Date: May 30, 2012 03:21
This tune doesn't rock my boat. Sounds to me like a Mick Jagger solo tune, just a bit too much pop and not enough rock. Where's the riff? Very much a retro sounding composition with modern sounds.
And this is the style of Jagger vocals that doesn't really take much of a risk, just not enough of something, just getting dragged along by the guitars. The slide guitar tries to save it but too little too late, imho. Overall, it's like something the Bay City Rollers could have played or something. peace
And this is the style of Jagger vocals that doesn't really take much of a risk, just not enough of something, just getting dragged along by the guitars. The slide guitar tries to save it but too little too late, imho. Overall, it's like something the Bay City Rollers could have played or something. peace
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
drewmaster
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Date: May 30, 2012 03:32
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loog droog
It doesn't even sound like a Rolling Stones record.
EXACTLY!! Keith's fingerprints are nowhere to be found. This sounds like a leftover from Dogshit in the Doorway.
Drew
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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Date: May 30, 2012 05:18
I dunno. There's something about this song that I like. It's not great by any means. I like it. It's miles above Streets Of Love and Following The River yet alone a few others...
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
lucasd4
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Date: May 30, 2012 06:04
Keith did have his fingerprints on this song......
Mick came up with the basic song but I came up with the chimes (sings descending major chorus melody). But I'd say that one's more Mick than me, absolutely. You can tell.
- Keith Richards, July 2005
Mick came up with the basic song but I came up with the chimes (sings descending major chorus melody). But I'd say that one's more Mick than me, absolutely. You can tell.
- Keith Richards, July 2005
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drewmaster
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loog droog
It doesn't even sound like a Rolling Stones record.
EXACTLY!! Keith's fingerprints are nowhere to be found. This sounds like a leftover from Dogshit in the Doorway.
Drew
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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Date: May 30, 2012 06:09
So, in general, A BIGGER BANG should not have been made.
And yet there is DIRTY WORK?
Ha ha. Gimme A BIGGER BANG anyday.
Minus a few songs, of course.
And yet there is DIRTY WORK?
Ha ha. Gimme A BIGGER BANG anyday.
Minus a few songs, of course.
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
Slimharpo
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Date: May 30, 2012 06:22
Most Keith Richards fans don't really want to admit how involved he was with a bigger bang. For example the verse structure if "streets if love" bears a striking resemblance to "love us strong." Sure it's clear Keith was writing it, and I'm sure it's obvious to you stone's geniuses but it's just so aweful that I'm giving all the credit to Mick! All Mick!
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
whitem8
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Date: May 30, 2012 06:26
Not bad music at all. I just wish Jagger would broaden his muse, and sing about more than just women, girlfriends, lays, etc.
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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Date: May 30, 2012 07:19
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Slimharpo
Most Keith Richards fans don't really want to admit how involved he was with a bigger bang. For example the verse structure if "streets if love" bears a striking resemblance to "love us strong." Sure it's clear Keith was writing it, and I'm sure it's obvious to you stone's geniuses but it's just so aweful that I'm giving all the credit to Mick! All Mick!
That's a first. What you smokin' boy?
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
backstreetboy1
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Date: May 30, 2012 08:27
great tune,should of been a hit single,always loved it.
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
Slimharpo
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Date: May 30, 2012 15:12
Regarding Kieth's involvement in Streets of Love, Keith says
"It's a Mick tour de force, in a way. But we all really enjoy playing it. When we first knocked it out on acoustic, we felt, Oh, that's nice, but it sounded kind of standard. So then Mick and I were saying, It's the dynamics that count. You gotta take it up and down."
But then when you reeally look at the verses "You had the moves, you had the cards...." it does come out of "Love is Strong" with some variation. Ah hell,who are we kidding, it's all Mick!
"It's a Mick tour de force, in a way. But we all really enjoy playing it. When we first knocked it out on acoustic, we felt, Oh, that's nice, but it sounded kind of standard. So then Mick and I were saying, It's the dynamics that count. You gotta take it up and down."
But then when you reeally look at the verses "You had the moves, you had the cards...." it does come out of "Love is Strong" with some variation. Ah hell,who are we kidding, it's all Mick!
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
Cafaro
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Date: May 30, 2012 16:12
I'll tell you one thing about this song.......I've lived exactly what this song is about and it sounds like he did too. In fact....I've played both roles in this song
Same with Biggest Mistake. Man.............I've lived that song my whole life.
I may not care for Mick's vocal stylings any longer but his subject matter on discs since Voodoo Lounge hits home for me.
I think it would have been a good single too and they could have given Streets of Love to Justin Bieber!
Same with Biggest Mistake. Man.............I've lived that song my whole life.
I may not care for Mick's vocal stylings any longer but his subject matter on discs since Voodoo Lounge hits home for me.
I think it would have been a good single too and they could have given Streets of Love to Justin Bieber!
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
Title5Take1
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Date: May 30, 2012 17:46
First-rate song. I like how the guitar line follows Mick's vocal during the "baby, baby" sections.
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
big4
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Date: May 30, 2012 18:19
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24FPS
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KeithNacho
ABB is a great work. This album in 1984 -85 surely could have been much more appreciated
Bookended by the excrement of Undercover (excepting the title track) and the coming apart at the seams of Dirty Work? Low standards, but you might have a point.
People's lack of appreciation for UC never ceases to amaze me. It contains their most fully realized reggae track, their most vicious funk rock workout and just some great rock n roll-"She Was Hot", "All The Way Down," and "Too Tough (a reworked Cellophane Trousers). It's edgy, experimental, is full of great Wood/Richards guitar interplay and holds up well nearly three decades later.
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
vertigojoe
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Date: May 30, 2012 22:25
Ha! Not one of you could tell me the last single you bought! How do you expect the Rolling Stones to have a hit record?!
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
Title5Take1
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Date: May 30, 2012 23:21
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vertigojoe
Ha! Not one of you could tell me the last single you bought! How do you expect the Rolling Stones to have a hit record?!
The last Stones single I bought? RAIN FALL DOWN. (For the remixes not on the album.)
The last single by anyone? PARADISE by Coldplay (from their 2011 album Mylo Xyloto).
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
wanderingspirit66
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Date: May 31, 2012 03:12
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big4
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24FPS
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KeithNacho
ABB is a great work. This album in 1984 -85 surely could have been much more appreciated
Bookended by the excrement of Undercover (excepting the title track) and the coming apart at the seams of Dirty Work? Low standards, but you might have a point.
People's lack of appreciation for UC never ceases to amaze me. It contains their most fully realized reggae track, their most vicious funk rock workout and just some great rock n roll-"She Was Hot", "All The Way Down," and "Too Tough (a reworked Cellophane Trousers). It's edgy, experimental, is full of great Wood/Richards guitar interplay and holds up well nearly three decades later.
Good post. Undercover is an under recognized gem. The relative commercial failure seems to have sent Jagger and consequently the Stones on a different arc - one that I have liked a lot less. The fractious critical appeal of Undercover seems to have informed Jagger that a less creative but broader portfolio approach to creating an album is more favorable to the band's commercial success. No wonder everything since then has been formulaic.
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
Lynd8
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Date: May 31, 2012 03:15
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drewmaster
Arrghhh... this is what happens when Keith lets Mick run the show and indulge in whatever pop drivel comes into his head. To my ears this song is as dull as dishwater and contributes to ABB being such a disappointment overall. But this video is easy on the eyes!
Drew
I suddenly like the song more now that I've seen the video LOL
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
drewmaster
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Date: May 31, 2012 03:38
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wanderingspirit66
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big4
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24FPS
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KeithNacho
ABB is a great work. This album in 1984 -85 surely could have been much more appreciated
Bookended by the excrement of Undercover (excepting the title track) and the coming apart at the seams of Dirty Work? Low standards, but you might have a point.
People's lack of appreciation for UC never ceases to amaze me. It contains their most fully realized reggae track, their most vicious funk rock workout and just some great rock n roll-"She Was Hot", "All The Way Down," and "Too Tough (a reworked Cellophane Trousers). It's edgy, experimental, is full of great Wood/Richards guitar interplay and holds up well nearly three decades later.
Good post. Undercover is an under recognized gem. The relative commercial failure seems to have sent Jagger and consequently the Stones on a different arc - one that I have liked a lot less. The fractious critical appeal of Undercover seems to have informed Jagger that a less creative but broader portfolio approach to creating an album is more favorable to the band's commercial success. No wonder everything since then has been formulaic.
Excellent post, wanderingspirit66 ... agree entirely with what you wrote except for the "everything" part ... IMO, there have been some non-formulaic masterpieces amidst the dross, such as "Thief in the Night" and "Laugh, I Nearly Died".
Drew
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
TheDailyBuzzherd
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Date: May 31, 2012 04:07
It's a decent tune.
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
TheDailyBuzzherd
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Date: May 31, 2012 04:23
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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
So, in general, A BIGGER BANG should not have been made.
And yet there is DIRTY WORK?
Ha ha. Gimme A BIGGER BANG anyday.
Minus a few songs, of course.
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
wanderingspirit66
()
Date: May 31, 2012 04:32
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drewmaster
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wanderingspirit66
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big4
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24FPS
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KeithNacho
ABB is a great work. This album in 1984 -85 surely could have been much more appreciated
Bookended by the excrement of Undercover (excepting the title track) and the coming apart at the seams of Dirty Work? Low standards, but you might have a point.
People's lack of appreciation for UC never ceases to amaze me. It contains their most fully realized reggae track, their most vicious funk rock workout and just some great rock n roll-"She Was Hot", "All The Way Down," and "Too Tough (a reworked Cellophane Trousers). It's edgy, experimental, is full of great Wood/Richards guitar interplay and holds up well nearly three decades later.
Good post. Undercover is an under recognized gem. The relative commercial failure seems to have sent Jagger and consequently the Stones on a different arc - one that I have liked a lot less. The fractious critical appeal of Undercover seems to have informed Jagger that a less creative but broader portfolio approach to creating an album is more favorable to the band's commercial success. No wonder everything since then has been formulaic.
Excellent post, wanderingspirit66 ... agree entirely with what you wrote except for the "everything" part ... IMO, there have been some non-formulaic masterpieces amidst the dross, such as "Thief in the Night" and "Laugh, I Nearly Died".
Drew
Individual songs still hold a lot of appeal for me. But the band and the subsequent albums are either formulaic or bi-partite. The formulaic Voodoo Lounge doesnt work for me. The bi-partite Bridges to Babylon works better for me. The two examples you point to are "solo" efforts within the Stones brand. The solo albums hold a lot more appeal for me (Primitive Cool not withstanding). There are a few good Jagger/Richards songs - even great ones but the signature Jagger/Richards riff driven rock-n-roll is nothing but formulaic and embarrassing e.g. Flip the Switch.. You got me rocking.. I go wild...
All said - I love both Let me Down Slow and It won't Take Long.
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
LeonidP
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Date: May 31, 2012 06:27
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Title5Take1
First-rate song. I like how the guitar line follows Mick's vocal during the "baby, baby" sections.
Yes! One of my favs off the album.
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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Date: May 31, 2012 19:26
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vertigojoe
Ha! Not one of you could tell me the last single you bought! How do you expect the Rolling Stones to have a hit record?!
Didn't know you asked.
Don't Stop was the last single I bought.
Re: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
Naturalust
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Date: June 1, 2012 19:09
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vertigojoe
Bay City Rollers!
Well, on a good day.
peaceRe: Track Talk: Let Me Down Slow
Posted by:
with sssoul
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Date: June 1, 2012 20:42
it's not on my short list.
the lyrics don't fit the music very well - he ends up having to emphasize wrong words in the lines
and it sounds unnatural and un-fine to me. my loss ...
the lyrics don't fit the music very well - he ends up having to emphasize wrong words in the lines
and it sounds unnatural and un-fine to me. my loss ...
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