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There is no such rule in the referree handbook
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Sure there isn't. The rule says that players can't use their hands intentionally and referee has to decide if contact was intentional or not. The position of player's hand is one of the conditions he has to consider to decide.
Yes, but the truth is that Spain played better with striker on the field. Maybe he will do better next time, if not Negredo or Llorente should play. They will try to score, Silva, Fabregas, Iniesta attack did to many passes instead of shooting.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-06-11 01:51 by szef.
to me, there is no doubt.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-06-11 09:29 by jpasc95.
Correct and that's why it often goes wrong.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-06-11 10:19 by Rolling Hansie.
The pass came from an opponent...
I enjoyed the game. Was away for the weekend, and catched the two first games on the radio.
Sorry about the Dutch's loss, kleermaker. Denmark was the reason Norway isn't participating, so I was cheering for your team.
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Yes, but at the moment of the pass it already was offside. Difficult situation.
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True, but the referee can't blow the whistle before the ball is significantly on its way to the receiver in offside position, and it wasn't in this case - because it changed direction before it was halfway there
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That's why I said "difficult situation".
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That's what I meant. So it was offside. And if it's offside, the referee must use his whistle immediately and then follows a free kick and no second pass, let alone a goal. So it is quite simple and not difficult at all (if I'm allowed to counter my pool captain).
LOL ... natuuuuuurrrlijk
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Stoneage, watch the fourth video on this site. It still works. No doubt: offside in first instance. I don't care about the opinions of referees. They protect each other of course (mostly). But I'm sure I'm right here.
Watch especially the 12th second. That's offside, even if the ball doesn't reach on of the two strikers in offside position.
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Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
szef
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Date: June 11, 2012 00:25
The heroes of the day are:
Mario Balotelli - his brain is generating random decisions
Fernando Torres - two years and still constant shape, impressive
Mario Balotelli - his brain is generating random decisions
Fernando Torres - two years and still constant shape, impressive
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
Big Al
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Date: June 11, 2012 00:32
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szef
The heroes of the day are:
Mario Balotelli - his brain is generating random decisions
His brain works in mysterious ways. Gotta love Mario, that's foe sure
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
Rolling Hansie
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Date: June 11, 2012 01:10
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szef
Penalty can't be given when player has his hands in natural positions.
There is no such rule in the referree handbook
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Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
Stoneage
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Date: June 11, 2012 01:11
True, szef. And Torres miss is out of sheer arrogance. He had a totaly free player to his right which he ignored and instead went for the spectacular goal.
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
szef
()
Date: June 11, 2012 01:40
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Rolling Hansie
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szef
Penalty can't be given when player has his hands in natural positions.
There is no such rule in the referree handbook
Sure there isn't. The rule says that players can't use their hands intentionally and referee has to decide if contact was intentional or not. The position of player's hand is one of the conditions he has to consider to decide.
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
szef
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Date: June 11, 2012 01:50
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Stoneage
True, szef. And Torres miss is out of sheer arrogance. He had a totaly free player to his right which he ignored and instead went for the spectacular goal.
Yes, but the truth is that Spain played better with striker on the field. Maybe he will do better next time, if not Negredo or Llorente should play. They will try to score, Silva, Fabregas, Iniesta attack did to many passes instead of shooting.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-06-11 01:51 by szef.
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
The Sicilian
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Date: June 11, 2012 05:50
On the bad behavior by European fans front,
UEFA promised zero tolerance for breaking rules at Euro 2012 and now has acted against three of the 16 competing nations. Croatia likely will follow after a firework was thrown on the field from a section containing its fans, and delayed the restart after Jelavic's goal.
Germany fans threw crumpled paper balls at Portugal players during a 1-0 victory Saturday in Lviv. Ukraine.
"The German Football Association (DF
is charged with the throwing of missiles by its supporters," UEFA said in a statement. "The Portuguese Football Federation (FPF) faces proceedings for a delayed kickoff to the second half."
Both teams face financial penalties when UEFA reviews the cases Thursday.
Russia's football federation warned fans that hooliganism could cost the team points on Wednesday when UEFA hears its case.
Video emerged Saturday of Russia fans attacking stadium stewards in Wroclaw after beating the Czech Republic 4-1 victory on Friday. The Football Union of Russia called on its traveling fans to "Respect yourself, your home and your team."
Federation president Sergei Fursenko and team coach Dick Advocaat, who is Dutch, joined a monthly vigil honoring late Poland president Lech Kaczynski. The symbolic gesture came amid ongoing tensions between Poland and Russia based on a difficult history of war and occupation, and the aftermath of the plane crash.
Poland and Russia play in Warsaw on Tuesday in potentially the most hostile atmosphere of the three-week event.
UEFA is also investigating reports by anti-racism monitors of abuse directed by Russian fans at Czech defender Theodor Gebre Selassie, who is black.
Selassie told The Associated Press on Sunday that he noticed the insults aimed at him.
"It was nothing extreme. I've experienced much worse," said the 25-year-old defender, whose father is Ethiopian.
UEFA promised zero tolerance for breaking rules at Euro 2012 and now has acted against three of the 16 competing nations. Croatia likely will follow after a firework was thrown on the field from a section containing its fans, and delayed the restart after Jelavic's goal.
Germany fans threw crumpled paper balls at Portugal players during a 1-0 victory Saturday in Lviv. Ukraine.
"The German Football Association (DF
is charged with the throwing of missiles by its supporters," UEFA said in a statement. "The Portuguese Football Federation (FPF) faces proceedings for a delayed kickoff to the second half."Both teams face financial penalties when UEFA reviews the cases Thursday.
Russia's football federation warned fans that hooliganism could cost the team points on Wednesday when UEFA hears its case.
Video emerged Saturday of Russia fans attacking stadium stewards in Wroclaw after beating the Czech Republic 4-1 victory on Friday. The Football Union of Russia called on its traveling fans to "Respect yourself, your home and your team."
Federation president Sergei Fursenko and team coach Dick Advocaat, who is Dutch, joined a monthly vigil honoring late Poland president Lech Kaczynski. The symbolic gesture came amid ongoing tensions between Poland and Russia based on a difficult history of war and occupation, and the aftermath of the plane crash.
Poland and Russia play in Warsaw on Tuesday in potentially the most hostile atmosphere of the three-week event.
UEFA is also investigating reports by anti-racism monitors of abuse directed by Russian fans at Czech defender Theodor Gebre Selassie, who is black.
Selassie told The Associated Press on Sunday that he noticed the insults aimed at him.
"It was nothing extreme. I've experienced much worse," said the 25-year-old defender, whose father is Ethiopian.
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
jpasc95
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Date: June 11, 2012 08:35
there should have been penalty cos the arms of the Danish defender were not stuck to his body.Quote
szef
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Rolling Hansie
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szef
Penalty can't be given when player has his hands in natural positions.
There is no such rule in the referree handbook
Sure there isn't. The rule says that players can't use their hands intentionally and referee has to decide if contact was intentional or not. The position of player's hand is one of the conditions he has to consider to decide.
to me, there is no doubt.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-06-11 09:29 by jpasc95.
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
Rolling Hansie
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Date: June 11, 2012 10:16
Quote
szef
referee has to decide if contact was intentional or not.
Correct and that's why it often goes wrong.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-06-11 10:19 by Rolling Hansie.
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: June 11, 2012 10:24
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kleermaker
Ireland-Croatia 1-2. Though imo offside. The Croatians became stronger and stronger, without creating much chances.
The pass came from an opponent...
I enjoyed the game. Was away for the weekend, and catched the two first games on the radio.
Sorry about the Dutch's loss, kleermaker. Denmark was the reason Norway isn't participating, so I was cheering for your team.
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Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
Rolling Hansie
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Date: June 11, 2012 10:30
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DandelionPowderman
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kleermaker
Ireland-Croatia 1-2. Though imo offside. The Croatians became stronger and stronger, without creating much chances.
The pass came from an opponent...
Yes, but at the moment of the pass it already was offside. Difficult situation.
Keep On Rolling
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: June 11, 2012 11:11
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Rolling Hansie
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DandelionPowderman
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kleermaker
Ireland-Croatia 1-2. Though imo offside. The Croatians became stronger and stronger, without creating much chances.
The pass came from an opponent...
Yes, but at the moment of the pass it already was offside. Difficult situation.
True, but the referee can't blow the whistle before the ball is significantly on its way to the receiver in offside position, and it wasn't in this case - because it changed direction before it was halfway there
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Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
Rolling Hansie
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Date: June 11, 2012 11:22
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DandelionPowderman
the referee can't blow the whistle before the ball is significantly on its way to the receiver in offside position, and it wasn't in this case - because it changed direction before it was halfway there
That's why I said "difficult situation".
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Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: June 11, 2012 11:42
Quote
Rolling Hansie
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DandelionPowderman
the referee can't blow the whistle before the ball is significantly on its way to the receiver in offside position, and it wasn't in this case - because it changed direction before it was halfway there
That's why I said "difficult situation".
Let's agree on that
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Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
jpasc95
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Date: June 11, 2012 12:32
ok guys now it's time to talk about serious matters
at 6 pm France is gonna play against his favourite enemy, England !
I see a game ended in a draw. Each of both teams is gonna be cautious.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-06-11 12:44 by jpasc95.
at 6 pm France is gonna play against his favourite enemy, England !
I see a game ended in a draw. Each of both teams is gonna be cautious.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-06-11 12:44 by jpasc95.
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
Rolling Hansie
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Date: June 11, 2012 12:49
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DandelionPowderman
Let's agree on that
Cheers
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Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
Rolling Hansie
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Date: June 11, 2012 12:51
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jpasc95
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Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
Arena1981
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Date: June 11, 2012 15:05
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Rolling Hansie
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DandelionPowderman
Quote
kleermaker
Ireland-Croatia 1-2. Though imo offside. The Croatians became stronger and stronger, without creating much chances.
The pass came from an opponent...
Yes, but at the moment of the pass it already was offside. Difficult situation.
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Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
Come On
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Date: June 11, 2012 16:03
This evening may give us Sweden - Ukraine 2 - 2 and England France 0 - 0....
Fly the flag Union jack....(stiff little fingers)...
I was driving home early Sunday morning through Bakersfield...
Fly the flag Union jack....(stiff little fingers)...
I was driving home early Sunday morning through Bakersfield...
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: June 11, 2012 16:45
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Rolling Hansie
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DandelionPowderman
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kleermaker
Ireland-Croatia 1-2. Though imo offside. The Croatians became stronger and stronger, without creating much chances.
The pass came from an opponent...
Yes, but at the moment of the pass it already was offside. Difficult situation.
That's what I meant. So it was offside. And if it's offside, the referee must use his whistle immediately and then follows a free kick and no second pass, let alone a goal. So it is quite simple and not difficult at all (if I'm allowed to counter my pool captain).
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: June 11, 2012 16:57
Silver Dagger is leading in the pool. But what's happened with him? Hansie, how many crates Oranje Boom beer did you send him? We've nothing heard of him ever since. It's becoming worrying now. Hey Silver, were are you. Wasn't it you who started this thread anyway? Please say something.
btw: I got my first points: even four. The red lantern isn't mine anymore (thus far).
btw: I got my first points: even four. The red lantern isn't mine anymore (thus far).
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
Rolling Hansie
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Date: June 11, 2012 18:30
Quote
kleermaker
...if I'm allowed to counter my pool captain...
LOL ... natuuuuuurrrlijk
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Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
Rolling Hansie
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Date: June 11, 2012 18:52
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kleermaker
btw: I got my first points: even four.
Congratulations
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Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
Stoneage
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Date: June 11, 2012 19:04
Kleermaker, if you read the referee blog Arena 1981 sent you will find out why it wasn't considered offside.
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: June 11, 2012 19:28
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Stoneage
Kleermaker, if you read the referee blog Arena 1981 sent you will find out why it wasn't considered offside.
Stoneage, watch the fourth video on this site. It still works. No doubt: offside in first instance. I don't care about the opinions of referees. They protect each other of course (mostly). But I'm sure I'm right here.
Watch especially the 12th second. That's offside, even if the ball doesn't reach on of the two strikers in offside position.
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Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
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Date: June 11, 2012 19:39
Hey,I'm in second place. Not bad for a Yank!Quote
kleermaker
Silver Dagger is leading in the pool. But what's happened with him? Hansie, how many crates Oranje Boom beer did you send him? We've nothing heard of him ever since. It's becoming worrying now. Hey Silver, were are you. Wasn't it you who started this thread anyway? Please say something.
btw: I got my first points: even four. The red lantern isn't mine anymore (thus far).
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Re: OT: Euro 2012
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: June 11, 2012 19:44
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sweetcharmedlife
Hey,I'm in second place. Not bad for a Yank!Quote
kleermaker
Silver Dagger is leading in the pool. But what's happened with him? Hansie, how many crates Oranje Boom beer did you send him? We've nothing heard of him ever since. It's becoming worrying now. Hey Silver, were are you. Wasn't it you who started this thread anyway? Please say something.
btw: I got my first points: even four. The red lantern isn't mine anymore (thus far).
Well done! So far
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