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That's about right.
Thanks Cohl.
By this logic, shouldn't we really deduct the years in between 1983 and 1988 from the grand total as well? They were as inactive then as they have been since 2007 to 2012. Both are periods of inactivity yet no one blinks about removing that 5 year stretch in the 80's when absolutely nothing happened. So technically the band lasted only 40 years. Is that right?
There's no real break between Exile and Goats Head Soup. Mick Taylor is still in the band. Until 74-75 they roll down the same way. In 1978 a lots of things have changed, Richards was arrested the year before, younger musicians claim their right to the crown, the band has a new second guitar player...
Just a breakdown in quality.
Basically alright, but I think the "Wood era" is here problematic, because musically speaking the gap between 1976 and 1978 tours is bigger than between 1973 and 1975. I think the eras should somehow divided taking attention to this fact. The musical reinvention of 1978 should be acknowledged (I call it sometimes "Pathe Marconi Era"
, UNDERCOVER being its last representataion; and then there is a gap between it and "Vegas Era" that started in 1989). All in all, I am not totally happy to divide the eras according to accidental member's name. it doesn't tell enough, or categorizes the history somehow 'wrongly'. Of course, it is rather difficult to find a consistent way to divide the eras since many eras seem to over-lap, etc.
But one addition to HM's list: "Vegas Era" stopped in 2007; we now live "Archive Era" as I've tried to promote here for some time...
- Doxa
No, that's wrong.
See, The Rolling Stones recorded an album in 1985 and released in 1986. The album was called 'Dirty Work'. They filmed two videos in 1986; one for their cover of Harlem Shuffle and one for 'One Hit to the Body'. They even played a show in 1986 for their road manager/keyboard player who passed away. His name was Ian Stewart.
(ps, I know you know this!)
____________________________________________________________________
New Track - Indoor Sunshine
[www.thepowergoats.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-05-26 20:50 by jamesfdouglas.
As an album Goats Head Soup is maybe not on par with Exile but most of the songs are as good as those on Exile. On Brussels Affair live versions of Star Star, Dancing With Mr. D, Heartbreaker and Angie are just as good as Rip This Joint, Happy or All Down The Line.
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how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
buttons67
()
Date: May 26, 2012 00:40
the stones played through many different eras and under many different circumstances and people generally divide those up, some maybe would have 3 era,s brian jones, mick taylor then ronnie wood, most would have more, how many different eras does each person divide the band up by through time.
i tend to divide them up as such.
62-64. early days.
65-67. swinging 60,s
68-72. golden era.
73-76. rockin 70,s
77-86. silver period/half time
89-91. 2nd half begins/bills last years
92-07. bronze era
08-present. last days
i tend to divide them up as such.
62-64. early days.
65-67. swinging 60,s
68-72. golden era.
73-76. rockin 70,s
77-86. silver period/half time
89-91. 2nd half begins/bills last years
92-07. bronze era
08-present. last days
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
rollmops
()
Date: May 26, 2012 01:32
I go with the Brian, Mick T. and Ronnie eras.That choice may be questionable because the last tours Ronnie played lots of songs that weren't from his era but the 3 musicians have each brought something different to the rolling stones' sound and live performances.
Rock and Roll,
Mops
Rock and Roll,
Mops
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
kowalski
()
Date: May 26, 2012 01:45
1) 1963-1967 [Rolling Stones #1 to Their Satanic Majesties Request]
2) 1968-1977 [Beggars Banquet to Black and Blue]
3) 1978-1986 [Some Girls to Dirty Work]
4) 1989-1997 [Steel Wheels to Bridges to Babylon]
5) 2002-2011 [Forty Licks to Some Girls reissue]
First period starts with the band covering their favourite blues and rythm & blues tunes to Jagger and Richards becoming pop masters. It ends with TSMR when they scramble everything they've learned so far and release an album that sounds like a dead end for the band.
Second period sees them going back to their blues roots to build a new sound based on Keith Richards' riffs and Mick Taylor's soloist talents. They become the "greatest rock 'n roll band in the world". Ends with Black and Blue where they experiment new sounds but which is also a dead end like TSMR.
Third period starts with Some Girls which sees the band reinventing itself. Richards and Ron Wood interplay gives the band a more rhythmic sound. The Glimmer Twins definitely prove they are true masters at writing rock'n roll songs with their last masterpiece "Tattoo You". Ends in a wreck with Dirty Work (Richards wants the band going back to their roots, Jagger doesn't want - again a dead end).
Fourth period starts with Steel Wheels (reinventing themselves again). The band rebuilds its recording legitimacy step by step (SW/Voodoo Lounge/Stripped). Ends with B2B which sees Stones leaders heading in two opposite directions again (yes, it's dead end again).
Fifth period is the Stones in their latter days. They show they can write an entire album that looks and sounds like a Stones album ( ABB ) and they can finally look back at their past with Exile and Some Girls deluxe reissues (also with Richards writing his autobiography).
2) 1968-1977 [Beggars Banquet to Black and Blue]
3) 1978-1986 [Some Girls to Dirty Work]
4) 1989-1997 [Steel Wheels to Bridges to Babylon]
5) 2002-2011 [Forty Licks to Some Girls reissue]
First period starts with the band covering their favourite blues and rythm & blues tunes to Jagger and Richards becoming pop masters. It ends with TSMR when they scramble everything they've learned so far and release an album that sounds like a dead end for the band.
Second period sees them going back to their blues roots to build a new sound based on Keith Richards' riffs and Mick Taylor's soloist talents. They become the "greatest rock 'n roll band in the world". Ends with Black and Blue where they experiment new sounds but which is also a dead end like TSMR.
Third period starts with Some Girls which sees the band reinventing itself. Richards and Ron Wood interplay gives the band a more rhythmic sound. The Glimmer Twins definitely prove they are true masters at writing rock'n roll songs with their last masterpiece "Tattoo You". Ends in a wreck with Dirty Work (Richards wants the band going back to their roots, Jagger doesn't want - again a dead end).
Fourth period starts with Steel Wheels (reinventing themselves again). The band rebuilds its recording legitimacy step by step (SW/Voodoo Lounge/Stripped). Ends with B2B which sees Stones leaders heading in two opposite directions again (yes, it's dead end again).
Fifth period is the Stones in their latter days. They show they can write an entire album that looks and sounds like a Stones album ( ABB ) and they can finally look back at their past with Exile and Some Girls deluxe reissues (also with Richards writing his autobiography).
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
Slick
()
Date: May 26, 2012 02:42
pre-1989: rolling stones
1989 and after: vegas stones
1989 and after: vegas stones
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: May 26, 2012 02:44
Jones - transitional - Taylor - Wood - Vegas.
* His Majesty, Prince Jones smiled as he moved among the crowd *
* His Majesty, Prince Jones smiled as he moved among the crowd *
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
memphiscats
()
Date: May 26, 2012 03:06
Interesting question. Originally, I was going to go with roll mops - applying the Stones cast of players to each era. But it depends on if we're looking at WHO's playing or WHAT they're recording? And the WHAT is probably the best divider of the Stones' eras.
I would say I almost agree with Kowalski, with one small change: I would stop at 72 after Exile and start a new category with Black and Blue - Dirty Work. Otherwise, his take looks spot-on to me!
Early Stones - 6
1) 1963-1967 [Rolling Stones #1 to Their Satanic Majesties Request]
2) 1968-1977 [Beggars Banquet toBlack and Blue]Exile
3) 1978-1986 [Black and Blue to Dirty Work]
4) 1989-1997 [Steel Wheels to Bridges to Babylon]
5) 2002-2011 [Forty Licks to Some Girls reissue]
I would say I almost agree with Kowalski, with one small change: I would stop at 72 after Exile and start a new category with Black and Blue - Dirty Work. Otherwise, his take looks spot-on to me!
Early Stones - 6
1) 1963-1967 [Rolling Stones #1 to Their Satanic Majesties Request]
2) 1968-1977 [Beggars Banquet to
3) 1978-1986 [Black and Blue to Dirty Work]
4) 1989-1997 [Steel Wheels to Bridges to Babylon]
5) 2002-2011 [Forty Licks to Some Girls reissue]
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
Send It To me
()
Date: May 26, 2012 03:18
1962-1964: covers
1965-1967: breakthrough
1968-1971: peak
1972-1976: rock
1977-1983: second wind
1984-1988: stagnation
1989-1999: reinvention
2000-2007: pressing on
2008-2012: hibernation
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-05-26 03:19 by Send It To me.
1965-1967: breakthrough
1968-1971: peak
1972-1976: rock
1977-1983: second wind
1984-1988: stagnation
1989-1999: reinvention
2000-2007: pressing on
2008-2012: hibernation
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-05-26 03:19 by Send It To me.
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
DiscoVolante
()
Date: May 26, 2012 03:26
Something like this:
63-64 Early raw british blues.
65-66 Pop era. A lot of hits and a breakthrough.
67 Failing to attempt the reigning psychedelic trends.
68-69 Back to the roots.
71-72 Darker themes.
73-77 Influences from funk and soul.
78-80 Adapting disco and punk to their own sound.
81-82 Stadium shows. The last great era.
83-88 Hiatus, inner fights and bad music.
89-94 Comeback. Big grand arena spectacles.
95-07 Rolling Stones Inc. A lot of money involved. Vegas era.
08-... Nothing.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-05-26 03:39 by DiscoVolante.
63-64 Early raw british blues.
65-66 Pop era. A lot of hits and a breakthrough.
67 Failing to attempt the reigning psychedelic trends.
68-69 Back to the roots.
71-72 Darker themes.
73-77 Influences from funk and soul.
78-80 Adapting disco and punk to their own sound.
81-82 Stadium shows. The last great era.
83-88 Hiatus, inner fights and bad music.
89-94 Comeback. Big grand arena spectacles.
95-07 Rolling Stones Inc. A lot of money involved. Vegas era.
08-... Nothing.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-05-26 03:39 by DiscoVolante.
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
jamesfdouglas
()
Date: May 26, 2012 03:34
1964-1967 - a solid hit-making team, but out-done and bettered by The Beatles in every possible way.
1968-1972 - this is the era when they came into their own and were actually 'artists'. This stuff is still very much worth listening to and getting lost in.
1973-1982 - still rocking hard live, but their muse was slipping creatively a bit thanks to losing Taylor and Richards barely being there. Still had a lot of great music to offer though, albeit inconsistently. Had they quit here (or Mick or Keith died) they would have been as legendary as Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd or The Doors.
1983-1988 - the band only existed to fill contracts out. their artistic irrelevance starts here.
1989-2007 - the Vegas era, the band is a nostalgia-driven wagon of corporate whores. Their credibility, once along the lines of The Beatles and Zeppelin, is now on par with KISS. No material released in the era is worth a damn except for fanboy-suckers.
2007-2012 (or 2013 - who really cares?) - picking their arses so they juuuuust hang on long enough to get their 50-year hype machine going long enough to milk us all one more time somehow - even though there's no possible way they could pull off a whole show. I think they really only "lasted" 45 years, finito after 2007 except for Mick's vault-rading.
____________________________________________________________________
New Track - Indoor Sunshine
[www.thepowergoats.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-05-26 03:37 by jamesfdouglas.
1968-1972 - this is the era when they came into their own and were actually 'artists'. This stuff is still very much worth listening to and getting lost in.
1973-1982 - still rocking hard live, but their muse was slipping creatively a bit thanks to losing Taylor and Richards barely being there. Still had a lot of great music to offer though, albeit inconsistently. Had they quit here (or Mick or Keith died) they would have been as legendary as Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd or The Doors.
1983-1988 - the band only existed to fill contracts out. their artistic irrelevance starts here.
1989-2007 - the Vegas era, the band is a nostalgia-driven wagon of corporate whores. Their credibility, once along the lines of The Beatles and Zeppelin, is now on par with KISS. No material released in the era is worth a damn except for fanboy-suckers.
2007-2012 (or 2013 - who really cares?) - picking their arses so they juuuuust hang on long enough to get their 50-year hype machine going long enough to milk us all one more time somehow - even though there's no possible way they could pull off a whole show. I think they really only "lasted" 45 years, finito after 2007 except for Mick's vault-rading.
____________________________________________________________________
New Track - Indoor Sunshine
[www.thepowergoats.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-05-26 03:37 by jamesfdouglas.
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
MightyStonesStillRollin50
()
Date: May 26, 2012 04:33
I don't.
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
uhbuhgullayew
()
Date: May 26, 2012 07:05
Quote
Slick
pre-1989: rolling stones
1989 and after: vegas stones
That's about right.
Thanks Cohl.
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: May 26, 2012 07:57
If a calculator isn't handy I use a slide rule.
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
Nimrod
()
Date: May 26, 2012 08:20
1963 - 1965: Early days
1966 - 1967: Pop/experimental era
1968 - 1972: Golden era
1973 - 1976: The hangover from the golden era
1978 - 1986: Keith & Ron weaving era/Last time new music was relavant
1989 - 1999: Come back era/elder statesmen but still active
2002 - 2007: Traveling nostalgia revue/The end
2013: One last time for the suckers
1966 - 1967: Pop/experimental era
1968 - 1972: Golden era
1973 - 1976: The hangover from the golden era
1978 - 1986: Keith & Ron weaving era/Last time new music was relavant
1989 - 1999: Come back era/elder statesmen but still active
2002 - 2007: Traveling nostalgia revue/The end
2013: One last time for the suckers
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
Justin
()
Date: May 26, 2012 08:44
Quote
jamesfdouglas
2007-2012 (or 2013 - who really cares?) - picking their arses so they juuuuust hang on long enough to get their 50-year hype machine going long enough to milk us all one more time somehow - even though there's no possible way they could pull off a whole show. I think they really only "lasted" 45 years, finito after 2007 except for Mick's vault-rading.
By this logic, shouldn't we really deduct the years in between 1983 and 1988 from the grand total as well? They were as inactive then as they have been since 2007 to 2012. Both are periods of inactivity yet no one blinks about removing that 5 year stretch in the 80's when absolutely nothing happened. So technically the band lasted only 40 years. Is that right?
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
kowalski
()
Date: May 26, 2012 14:44
Quote
memphiscats
Interesting question. Originally, I was going to go with roll mops - applying the Stones cast of players to each era. But it depends on if we're looking at WHO's playing or WHAT they're recording? And the WHAT is probably the best divider of the Stones' eras.
I would say I almost agree with Kowalski, with one small change: I would stop at 72 after Exile and start a new category with Black and Blue - Dirty Work. Otherwise, his take looks spot-on to me!
Early Stones - 6
1) 1963-1967 [Rolling Stones #1 to Their Satanic Majesties Request]
2) 1968-1977 [Beggars Banquet toBlack and Blue]Exile
3) 1978-1986 [Black and Blue to Dirty Work]
4) 1989-1997 [Steel Wheels to Bridges to Babylon]
5) 2002-2011 [Forty Licks to Some Girls reissue]
There's no real break between Exile and Goats Head Soup. Mick Taylor is still in the band. Until 74-75 they roll down the same way. In 1978 a lots of things have changed, Richards was arrested the year before, younger musicians claim their right to the crown, the band has a new second guitar player...
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
loog droog
()
Date: May 26, 2012 15:02
Quote
kowalski
There's no real break between Exile and Goats Head Soup.
Just a breakdown in quality.
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: May 26, 2012 15:07
....what about a chain-saw runnin' on nitro ????....
ROCKMAN
ROCKMANRe: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
ab
()
Date: May 26, 2012 16:08
The awesome first decade (1962-72)
The erratic middle period (1973-88)
The big payday (1989-present)
The erratic middle period (1973-88)
The big payday (1989-present)
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: May 26, 2012 16:12
Quote
His Majesty
Jones - transitional - Taylor - Wood - Vegas.
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
2000 LYFH
()
Date: May 26, 2012 17:12
1963 - 1st era
1964 - 2nd era
1965 - 3rd era
1966 - 4th era
1967 - 5th era
1968 - 6th era
1969 - 7th era
1970 - 8th era
1971 - 9th era
1972 - 10th era
1973 - 11th era
1974 - 12th era
1975 - 13th era
1976 - 14th era
1977 - 15th era
1978 - 16th era
1979 - 17th era
1980 - 18th era
1981 - 19th era
1982 - 20th era
1983 - 21st era
1984 - 22nd era
1985 - 23rd era
1986 - 24th era
1987 - 25th era
1988 - 26th era
1989 - 27th era
1990 - 28th era
1991 - 29th era
1992 - 30th era
1993 - 31st era
1994 - 32nd era
1995 - 33rd era
1996 - 34th era
1997 - 35th era
1998 - 36th era
1999 - 37th era
2000 - 38th era
2001 - 39th era
2002 - 40th era
2003 - 41st era
2004 - 42nd era
2005 - 43rd era
2006 - 44th era
2007 - 45th era
2008 - 46th era
2009 - 47th era
2010 - 48th era
2011 - 49th era
2012 - 50th era
2013 - Or is this their 50th (and hopefully not the last)
1964 - 2nd era
1965 - 3rd era
1966 - 4th era
1967 - 5th era
1968 - 6th era
1969 - 7th era
1970 - 8th era
1971 - 9th era
1972 - 10th era
1973 - 11th era
1974 - 12th era
1975 - 13th era
1976 - 14th era
1977 - 15th era
1978 - 16th era
1979 - 17th era
1980 - 18th era
1981 - 19th era
1982 - 20th era
1983 - 21st era
1984 - 22nd era
1985 - 23rd era
1986 - 24th era
1987 - 25th era
1988 - 26th era
1989 - 27th era
1990 - 28th era
1991 - 29th era
1992 - 30th era
1993 - 31st era
1994 - 32nd era
1995 - 33rd era
1996 - 34th era
1997 - 35th era
1998 - 36th era
1999 - 37th era
2000 - 38th era
2001 - 39th era
2002 - 40th era
2003 - 41st era
2004 - 42nd era
2005 - 43rd era
2006 - 44th era
2007 - 45th era
2008 - 46th era
2009 - 47th era
2010 - 48th era
2011 - 49th era
2012 - 50th era
2013 - Or is this their 50th (and hopefully not the last)
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: May 26, 2012 17:38
Quote
kleermaker
Quote
His Majesty
Jones - transitional - Taylor - Wood - Vegas.
Basically alright, but I think the "Wood era" is here problematic, because musically speaking the gap between 1976 and 1978 tours is bigger than between 1973 and 1975. I think the eras should somehow divided taking attention to this fact. The musical reinvention of 1978 should be acknowledged (I call it sometimes "Pathe Marconi Era"
, UNDERCOVER being its last representataion; and then there is a gap between it and "Vegas Era" that started in 1989). All in all, I am not totally happy to divide the eras according to accidental member's name. it doesn't tell enough, or categorizes the history somehow 'wrongly'. Of course, it is rather difficult to find a consistent way to divide the eras since many eras seem to over-lap, etc.But one addition to HM's list: "Vegas Era" stopped in 2007; we now live "Archive Era" as I've tried to promote here for some time...
- Doxa
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
stupidguy2
()
Date: May 26, 2012 18:51
64-67
68-69
70-74
75-76
77-81
82-89
89-99
from then on to now.
Or I do it by the women, or the rhythm guitarist...lol
68-69
70-74
75-76
77-81
82-89
89-99
from then on to now.
Or I do it by the women, or the rhythm guitarist...lol
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
Bostonstranglerno9
()
Date: May 26, 2012 19:10
1962-1982 the greatest rocknroll band iin the world
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
jamesfdouglas
()
Date: May 26, 2012 20:49
Quote
Justin
Quote
jamesfdouglas
2007-2012 (or 2013 - who really cares?) - picking their arses so they juuuuust hang on long enough to get their 50-year hype machine going long enough to milk us all one more time somehow - even though there's no possible way they could pull off a whole show. I think they really only "lasted" 45 years, finito after 2007 except for Mick's vault-rading.
By this logic, shouldn't we really deduct the years in between 1983 and 1988 from the grand total as well? They were as inactive then as they have been since 2007 to 2012. Both are periods of inactivity yet no one blinks about removing that 5 year stretch in the 80's when absolutely nothing happened. So technically the band lasted only 40 years. Is that right?
No, that's wrong.
See, The Rolling Stones recorded an album in 1985 and released in 1986. The album was called 'Dirty Work'. They filmed two videos in 1986; one for their cover of Harlem Shuffle and one for 'One Hit to the Body'. They even played a show in 1986 for their road manager/keyboard player who passed away. His name was Ian Stewart.
(ps, I know you know this!)
____________________________________________________________________
New Track - Indoor Sunshine
[www.thepowergoats.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-05-26 20:50 by jamesfdouglas.
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: May 26, 2012 21:28
The way i see it they were a fulltime working band until 1983. From then on they have worked only part time with the band. Fifteen years of work, fifteen years of vacation. More or less...
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
stonesdan60
()
Date: May 26, 2012 22:10
First album - Majesties (1964- '67): Young upstarts emulate their blues and R & B idols, evolve into writing their own great songs, stray from their roots and dabble in psychedelia. Brian Jones sadly self destructs.
Beggar's Banquet - Exile ('68 - '72)
Stones have evolved into their own truly unique identity and song writing genious. The glory days.
Goat - Black and Blue ('73 - '76) They still write and record good music but it's never quite up to par with the Big Four
Some Girls - Undercover ('78 - '84)
Rebirth. They once again write and record great songs although the creativity wanes a bit by Undercover, which still has some great songs on it
Dirty Work - vanishing ('86 - '88)
WWW III mars an album that is debated to this day as to whether or not it's total crap or an "accidental masterpiece." Their abscence from the stage has many fearing the've broken up.
Steel Wheels - A Bigger Bang (1989 - 2005)
Another rebirth. Good music although many critique them as imitating them selves on the albums within this period. Still, many great songs can be found in these albums. The Stones become supreme masters of the stadium spectacle and played to huge crowds around the world. Although I ended this period at 2005, they continued to tour through 2007. Many fans loved these spectacular shows. Other wrote them off as "Vegas Stones." Whatever the case, they remained a huge concert draw. Some loved the fact that they played in this era song arrangements that were closer to the recorded versions. Others wished they would have just jammed out the tunes and made them different like they did in the sixties through the '81 - '82 tour. Whatever the case, their greatest music will live long beyond the present day.
Will their be another period? Time will tell.
Beggar's Banquet - Exile ('68 - '72)
Stones have evolved into their own truly unique identity and song writing genious. The glory days.
Goat - Black and Blue ('73 - '76) They still write and record good music but it's never quite up to par with the Big Four
Some Girls - Undercover ('78 - '84)
Rebirth. They once again write and record great songs although the creativity wanes a bit by Undercover, which still has some great songs on it
Dirty Work - vanishing ('86 - '88)
WWW III mars an album that is debated to this day as to whether or not it's total crap or an "accidental masterpiece." Their abscence from the stage has many fearing the've broken up.
Steel Wheels - A Bigger Bang (1989 - 2005)
Another rebirth. Good music although many critique them as imitating them selves on the albums within this period. Still, many great songs can be found in these albums. The Stones become supreme masters of the stadium spectacle and played to huge crowds around the world. Although I ended this period at 2005, they continued to tour through 2007. Many fans loved these spectacular shows. Other wrote them off as "Vegas Stones." Whatever the case, they remained a huge concert draw. Some loved the fact that they played in this era song arrangements that were closer to the recorded versions. Others wished they would have just jammed out the tunes and made them different like they did in the sixties through the '81 - '82 tour. Whatever the case, their greatest music will live long beyond the present day.
Will their be another period? Time will tell.
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
kowalski
()
Date: May 26, 2012 22:43
Quote
loog droog
Quote
kowalski
There's no real break between Exile and Goats Head Soup.
Just a breakdown in quality.
As an album Goats Head Soup is maybe not on par with Exile but most of the songs are as good as those on Exile. On Brussels Affair live versions of Star Star, Dancing With Mr. D, Heartbreaker and Angie are just as good as Rip This Joint, Happy or All Down The Line.
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
FreeBird
()
Date: May 27, 2012 00:45
Any way you look at it, there are five eras.
Looking at studio output, I'd come to this:
First Era: The Rolling Stones and The Rolling Stones No. 2 (Mostly blues and early rock and roll)
Transitional Album: Out of Our Heads!
Second Era: Aftermath and Between the Buttons (Mostly pop)
Transitional Album: Their Satanic Majesties Request
Third Era: Beggars Banquet, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main St., Goat's Head Soup, It's Only Rock 'n Roll (A return to rock and a new, own identity)
Transitional Album: Black and Blue
Fourth Era: Some Girls, Emotional Rescue, Tattoo You, Undercover (Back to basics, but also incorporating modern influences)
Transitional Album: Dirty Work
Fifth Era: Steel Wheels, Voodoo Lounge, Bridges to Babylon and A Bigger Band (From now on they just do what they feel like doing at that particular time - these albums are spread so far apart that it's hard to recognize any real pattern)
Looking at their live performances, I'd come to this:
First Era: 1962-1963 (Not yet very famous)
Second Era: 1964-1967 (Screaming Girls)
Third Era: 1969-1977 (Serious shows, but songs end up becoming too complex and overly long)
Fourth Era: 1978-1982 (Back to simple stuff, on to big stadiums)
Fifth Era: 1989-2007 (Vegas-style cash generation)
Looking at their personnel changes, I'd come to this:
First Era: 1962 (Still looking for the right rhythm section)
Second Era: 1963-1968 (First "real" line-up, more or less)
Third Era: 1969-1974 (Taylor replaces Jones)
Fourth Era: 1975-1991 (Wood replaces Taylor)
Fifth Era: 1993-2012 (Wyman leaves)
Looking at studio output, I'd come to this:
First Era: The Rolling Stones and The Rolling Stones No. 2 (Mostly blues and early rock and roll)
Transitional Album: Out of Our Heads!
Second Era: Aftermath and Between the Buttons (Mostly pop)
Transitional Album: Their Satanic Majesties Request
Third Era: Beggars Banquet, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main St., Goat's Head Soup, It's Only Rock 'n Roll (A return to rock and a new, own identity)
Transitional Album: Black and Blue
Fourth Era: Some Girls, Emotional Rescue, Tattoo You, Undercover (Back to basics, but also incorporating modern influences)
Transitional Album: Dirty Work
Fifth Era: Steel Wheels, Voodoo Lounge, Bridges to Babylon and A Bigger Band (From now on they just do what they feel like doing at that particular time - these albums are spread so far apart that it's hard to recognize any real pattern)
Looking at their live performances, I'd come to this:
First Era: 1962-1963 (Not yet very famous)
Second Era: 1964-1967 (Screaming Girls)
Third Era: 1969-1977 (Serious shows, but songs end up becoming too complex and overly long)
Fourth Era: 1978-1982 (Back to simple stuff, on to big stadiums)
Fifth Era: 1989-2007 (Vegas-style cash generation)
Looking at their personnel changes, I'd come to this:
First Era: 1962 (Still looking for the right rhythm section)
Second Era: 1963-1968 (First "real" line-up, more or less)
Third Era: 1969-1974 (Taylor replaces Jones)
Fourth Era: 1975-1991 (Wood replaces Taylor)
Fifth Era: 1993-2012 (Wyman leaves)
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
Honestman
()
Date: May 27, 2012 02:09
Official
1963-1969 Jones Era
1969-1974 Taylor Era
1975-1983 Wood Era I
1983-2007 Wood Era II
2008 to Present The Archives Era
Unofficial
Outtakes
Rehearsals
TV Shows
Radio Shows
Live 60's
Live 70's
Live 80's
Live 90's
Live 00's
+
Solo Works
HMN
StonesCave
1963-1969 Jones Era
1969-1974 Taylor Era
1975-1983 Wood Era I
1983-2007 Wood Era II
2008 to Present The Archives Era
Unofficial
Outtakes
Rehearsals
TV Shows
Radio Shows
Live 60's
Live 70's
Live 80's
Live 90's
Live 00's
+
Solo Works
HMN
StonesCave
Re: how do you divide up each stones era.
Posted by:
MrMonte
()
Date: May 27, 2012 04:23
I think this is an excellent post and I agree with it pretty much 100%. I don't happen to see DW as a train wreck but I understand exactly what you are getting at. Your descriptions of the era is spot on. I think you nailed it - seriously!
Nice post.
Nice post.
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