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this is amazing - I visited the RO page and there is a calm discussion of this article with the author himself, the person who wrote it.They don't insult him, do not call him names, not accuse of anything, do not offer him to suck dick - not matter what words he chose to describe Richards.
I posted the article here and got the eruption of hatred with a strong misogynistic tone

may be stupidguy2 is right, and it's all about misogyny

NO darlin' it's NOT about misogyny at all. I was extremely upset about this ridiculous article AND your original title - and I'm a woman!

If you find things so much "calmer" over at RO perhaps you could go over there to spew your hatred for Keith. As I said earlier, we are STONES' FANS here and there would not be 'Stones' without all of them.....Keith, Mick, Charlie, Ronnie, Brian, Taylor and Stu. And all of the others surrounding them - Nicky, Jimmy Miller, Bobby Keys, the list is endless!

So, this is not misogyny (an easy cop-out for hatred!). It's rather about the love for a band and all its members who have given us the music of our lives/the soundtrack to our lives.

Please.....if you're filled with hatred toward anyone/any Stone, kindly keep it to yourself. Your hatred is like a cancer; it's ugly and it has no place here where people love The Rolling Stones.

Misogyny - what a load of crap to cover yourself. Remember, I'm a woman and there are some/many women here. Don't use our gender as your paltry cop-out!

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where there is smoke there is usually fire...I hope Keith lived up to his claim in Life that he writes songs for Mick to sing...because he hasn't done much of that lately....he did it brilliantly before....and that's not taking anything away from Jagger whose written his own share of brilliance....a whole is equal to the sum of its parts.

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this is amazing - I visited the RO page and there is a calm discussion of this article with the author himself, the person who wrote it.They don't insult him, do not call him names, not accuse of anything, do not offer him to suck dick - not matter what words he chose to describe Richards.
I posted the article here and got the eruption of hatred with a strong misogynistic tone

may be stupidguy2 is right, and it's all about misogyny

NO darlin' it's NOT about misogyny at all. I was extremely upset about this ridiculous article AND your original title - and I'm a woman!

If you find things so much "calmer" over at RO perhaps you could go over there to spew your hatred for Keith. As I said earlier, we are STONES' FANS here and there would not be 'Stones' without all of them.....Keith, Mick, Charlie, Ronnie, Brian, Taylor and Stu. And all of the others surrounding them - Nicky, Jimmy Miller, Bobby Keys, the list is endless!

So, this is not misogyny (an easy cop-out for hatred!). It's rather about the love for a band and all its members who have given us the music of our lives/the soundtrack to our lives.

Please.....if you're filled with hatred toward anyone/any Stone, kindly keep it to yourself. Your hatred is like a cancer; it's ugly and it has no place here where people love The Rolling Stones.

Misogyny - what a load of crap to cover yourself. Remember, I'm a woman and there are some/many women here. Don't use our gender as your paltry cop-out!

this post im printing and framing, to hang on my wall, This has to be one of the most intelligent posts ever on this site,

If you only ever read one post from this site to think on, this is it

thank you Cocaine Eyes,

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Bravo. Glad someone has the balls to tell the truth to ProudMary. PM seemed to trawl the worlds press to find a shitty Keith article to post. I love the band -Mick is the greatest frontman, and a hell of a songwriter too. let's stop finding thing that divide us.

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this is amazing - I visited the RO page and there is a calm discussion of this article with the author himself, the person who wrote it.They don't insult him, do not call him names, not accuse of anything, do not offer him to suck dick - not matter what words he chose to describe Richards.
I posted the article here and got the eruption of hatred with a strong misogynistic tone

may be stupidguy2 is right, and it's all about misogyny

NO darlin' it's NOT about misogyny at all. I was extremely upset about this ridiculous article AND your original title - and I'm a woman!

If you find things so much "calmer" over at RO perhaps you could go over there to spew your hatred for Keith. As I said earlier, we are STONES' FANS here and there would not be 'Stones' without all of them.....Keith, Mick, Charlie, Ronnie, Brian, Taylor and Stu. And all of the others surrounding them - Nicky, Jimmy Miller, Bobby Keys, the list is endless!

So, this is not misogyny (an easy cop-out for hatred!). It's rather about the love for a band and all its members who have given us the music of our lives/the soundtrack to our lives.

Please.....if you're filled with hatred toward anyone/any Stone, kindly keep it to yourself. Your hatred is like a cancer; it's ugly and it has no place here where people love The Rolling Stones.

Misogyny - what a load of crap to cover yourself. Remember, I'm a woman and there are some/many women here. Don't use our gender as your paltry cop-out!

this post im printing and framing, to hang on my wall, This has to be one of the most intelligent posts ever on this site,

If you only ever read one post from this site to think on, this is it

thank you Cocaine Eyes,

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Wanderingspirit, old chap, liked those comments and that evocative "recent moments in the sun."

May have to play "Evening Gown" a few times. My favorite cry in half a glass of wine song.

Assume you are in the US and will be glued to SNL tomorrow night? I will probably turn to Ray Charles after that's over to listen to "Let's Go Get Stoned."

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Bravo. Glad someone has the balls to tell the truth to ProudMary. PM seemed to trawl the worlds press to find a shitty Keith article to post. I love the band -Mick is the greatest frontman, and a hell of a songwriter too. let's stop finding thing that divide us.

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Bravo. Glad someone has the balls to tell the truth to ProudMary. PM seemed to trawl the worlds press to find a shitty Keith article to post. I love the band -Mick is the greatest frontman, and a hell of a songwriter too. let's stop finding thing that divide us.

CE claims that she is a woman. I do not think that the assumption that she has the balls is sush a great compliment in this case

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Mick Jagger: Two cheers for an aging frontman

That is the original title for the article, as some already posted.
At the end of the article the author writes: "It makes me sad to say this, but I fear it’s the truth. Keith Richards isn’t the purist. Lately, he’s more like a parasite".
Making "It’s the truth - Richards is more like a parasite" the title of this thread is indeed misleading and wrong. One can only guess why the poster chose to do so.

Because it's Proud Mary and that's what she does. Pushes her own agenda,while pushing the facts aside......BTW,for those who don't know. The author of this article is also a regular poster on Rocks Off.

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Why does everyone think that if they like one that they must hate the other. I dont' think the article writer knows what he is talking about on several instances, namely, the contributions on Bigger Bang songwriting. I think they are a songwriting team and both should get credit for it. How would the article writer know anything about who did what?

Dismissing Beast Of Burden, Before They Make Me Run and Shattered + Keith's ideas for playing, arranging, as well as his back up vocals IS a major factual error, certainly not worthy of a fan to make, nor of an "ace" guitarist, let alone a "writer/journalist".

And didn't Keith bring songs to ABB? As far as I know he brought Rough Justice (the best single), This Place Is Empty and Infamy + he had a hand in writing Let Me Down Slow, Back Of My Hand and Oh No, Not You Again (according to timeisonourside.com - and not even all of the songs are discussed there, so there could be more song writing from Keith in there).

Didn´t Keith himself say recently that Mick wrote "a lot of" (I don´t remember his exact words) of Beast of Burden?

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Anyone can "have the balls" to make a statement. I guess you are trying to be divisive again. I won't post on this again. I think you are pushing your own agenda, and I stand by my previous comments. You clearly love attention. the record will stand. you think Keith is a Parasite. you associated yourself with the article and took such glee in posting that it clearly represents your view. Shame on you.

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Bravo. Glad someone has the balls to tell the truth to ProudMary. PM seemed to trawl the worlds press to find a shitty Keith article to post. I love the band -Mick is the greatest frontman, and a hell of a songwriter too. let's stop finding thing that divide us.

CE claims that she is a woman. I do not think that the assumption that she has the balls is sush a great compliment in this case

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Bravo. Glad someone has the balls to tell the truth to ProudMary. PM seemed to trawl the worlds press to find a shitty Keith article to post. I love the band -Mick is the greatest frontman, and a hell of a songwriter too. let's stop finding thing that divide us.

CE claims that she is a woman. I do not think that the assumption that she has the balls is sush a great compliment in this case

For some reason you don't understand what it means to be complimented that someone has a spine regardless of gender. Why don't you go paint a ceiling somewhere.

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Bravo. Glad someone has the balls to tell the truth to ProudMary. PM seemed to trawl the worlds press to find a shitty Keith article to post. I love the band -Mick is the greatest frontman, and a hell of a songwriter too. let's stop finding thing that divide us.

CE claims that she is a woman. I do not think that the assumption that she has the balls is sush a great compliment in this case

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Mick Jagger: Two cheers for an aging frontman

That is the original title for the article, as some already posted.
At the end of the article the author writes: "It makes me sad to say this, but I fear it’s the truth. Keith Richards isn’t the purist. Lately, he’s more like a parasite".
Making "It’s the truth - Richards is more like a parasite" the title of this thread is indeed misleading and wrong. One can only guess why the poster chose to do so.

Because it's Proud Mary and that's what she does. Pushes her own agenda,while pushing the facts aside......BTW,for those who don't know. The author of this article is also a regular poster on Rocks Off.

I am not aware of who that is, the author of the article being a regular poster on Rocks Off. How do you know that?

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Mick Jagger: Two cheers for an aging frontman

Mick Jagger will close out this season of NBC’s “Saturday Night Live” as both host and, along with Foo Fighters and Arcade Fire, musical guest. He does so at a moment when his professional reputation is not exactly at its high water mark.

His close relationship with producer Lorne Michaels; the fact that the television network’s parent company, NBCUniversal, owns much of the Rolling Stones’ back catalog; the simple convenience of keeping a residence in New York City in preparation for activity with the Stones next year — these factors, as much as if not more than his potential to attract viewers, converged to land Mr. Jagger the “SNL” gig.

Time spent away from the Stones always seems to do this to Mr. Jagger. Keith Richards says he implores his creative partner and foil of 50 years to “keep a low profile” between tours. Yet Mr. Jagger, an inveterate workaholic, insists on releasing commercial duds like 2001’s solo album “Goddess in the Doorway” and, most recently, a collective project called SuperHeavy.

With due allowance to the British music press’ storied sense of cheek, Mr. Jagger was brazenly snubbed by the influential New Musical Express, which omitted him from its list of the “50 most electrifying frontmen (and women)” of all time. More recently, the face of the Stones failed to crack the Top 10 of a “greatest frontmen” listeners poll conducted in March by British radio station Xfm, running behind the likes of the Killers’ Brandon Flowers.

Just about his only claim to contemporary cultural relevance was an accidental gift — Maroon 5’s hit single “Moves Like Jagger,” a tune that even Mr. Jagger admitted he got tired of hearing.

Rolling Stones guitar man Keith Richards, 68, has stayed in the limelight with a best-selling memoir and by playing Johnny Depp’s father in two “Pirates of the Caribbean” sequels. (Associated Press)
In contrast, the mystique of Mr. Richards is as potent as ever. The chainsmoking, skull-ring-sporting guitarist has become a rascally elder statesman. In addition, he’s become a sort of literary bon vivant, thanks to the best-selling success of his memoir “Life.” Longtime fans of the Stones couldn’t help noticing the effortlessness with which Mr. Richards made a splash in the movies, playing Johnny Depp’s father in a pair of “Pirates of the Caribbean” sequels, as compared with Mr. Jagger’s earnest, at times misbegotten (witness the 1992 turkey “Freejack”), attempts at crossover success over the years.

Is this seeming dichotomy — Mr. Richards the epitome of cool; Mr. Jagger the soulless careerist striver … actually fair? Look: I’m as loyal a Keef disciple as you’re likely to find. I maintain a YouTube channel, recently featured in Rolling Stone magazine, with Richards-related guitar tutorials. I know more about him than perhaps an otherwise well-adjusted adult should know about a perfect stranger.

But honesty compels me to mount a defense of Mr. Jagger. Whatever the scriveners at NME — itself a British dinosaur — think about him, Mr. Jagger will always stand as rock’s paradigmatic frontman in my book.

And he is not merely a “frontman.” Not by a long shot.

Mr. Jagger is hugely underrated as a songwriter in his own right. The catalog of Stones classics he wrote with little or no input from Mr. Richards — including “Brown Sugar,” “Sway,” “Moonlight Mile,” “Dead Flowers,” “Sister Morphine,” “Shine A Light,” almost the entirety of “Some Girls” and many more — is extensive and formidable.

As for the movie-mongering, Mr. Jagger actually has received decent notices for roles in films like “Bent” (1997) and “The Man From Elysian Fields” (2001). Sure, the SuperHeavy supergroup bombed commercially — but almost all music bombs commercially these days. I didn’t love it, but it was an intriguing failure.

I will take the admixture of flops and gems that Late Jagger yields over what I’m getting from Late Richards — which is not much of anything.

Say what you will about Mr. Jagger’s management of the Stones‘ legacy over the past 25 years — the ruthless branding, the shameless corporate tie-ins, the private shows for Pepsi executives, Texas billionaires and German bankers. I’m not a huge fan of it myself. But if Mr. Richards fancies himself the purist of the partnership, he seems awfully happy to ride sidecar in the Mick Machine, doesn’t he?

I get, too, why Mr. Richards doesn’t care for Mr. Jagger’s spotlight-seeking outside the Stones. But if such a thing is possible, Mr. Richards lately keeps a low profile within the Stones. For instance, he contributed barely any material to the band’s last studio effort, 2005’s “A Bigger Bang.” Similarly, the most recent Stones products — reissues of the classic LPs “Exile On Main Street” and “Some Girls” — have been piloted by Mr. Jagger. Producer Don Was served as audio curator while Mr. Jagger put finishing touches, including brand-new vocal tracks, on a passel of studio outtakes.

It was Mr. Jagger who — to the delight of hard-core Stones fans like me — tapped departed lead guitarist Mick Taylor to play on the stray “Exile” track “Plundered My Soul,” the first time he’d appeared on a Stones recording since 1981’s “Tattoo You.” When asked about this brief, low-profile reunion by Guitar World magazine in 2010, Mr. Richards dismissed it as a rumor. It’s possible he was affecting ignorance in order not to unduly stir excitement about the possibility of future contributions from Mr. Taylor. But my sense is that Mr. Richards honestly was not aware of the fact, so out of touch is he with Stones Inc.
After a brilliant productive run from 1986 through 1997, during which he recorded two solo albums as well as contributed roundly to four Stones albums, Mr. Richards has apparently dried up creatively. The traumatic fall from a tree while on holiday in Fiji in 2006 has certainly not helped. But the onset of the drought preceded the head injury. I could be wrong; for all I know, he writes regularly and chooses not to release the output. All I can go on is what’s publicly available.

I have a hunch that Mr. Richards is actually not much interested in writing rock songs anymore. If he had his druthers, he’d cut a figure similar to those of aging oddballs like Leonard Cohen and Tom Waits.

Instead of this, we get long periods of musical silence, punctuated by lots of unclassy sniping at Mr. Jagger.

It makes me sad to say this, but I fear it’s the truth.

Keith Richards isn’t the purist.

Lately, he’s more like a parasite.


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Who exactly do you suggest me to kiss, Rockman - 'cause I hope you don't mean that Mick and Keith have to kiss each other

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this is amazing - I visited the RO page and there is a calm discussion of this article with the author himself, the person who wrote it.They don't insult him, do not call him names, not accuse of anything, do not offer him to suck dick - not matter what words he chose to describe Richards.
I posted the article here and got the eruption of hatred with a strong misogynistic tone

may be stupidguy2 is right, and it's all about misogyny

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Who exactly do you suggest me to kiss, Rockman - 'cause I hope you don't mean that Mick and Keith have to kiss each other

proudmary, what would your honest reaction be if Keith walked on stage tonight and planted a big kiss on Mick's cheek? That's what should happen. At worst they should leave the show with their arms around each other. What a moment that would be.

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Who exactly do you suggest me to kiss, Rockman - 'cause I hope you don't mean that Mick and Keith have to kiss each other

proudmary, what would your honest reaction be if Keith walked on stage tonight and planted a big kiss on Mick's cheek? That's what should happen. At worst they should leave the show with their arms around each other. What a moment that would be.

That would be great! But I'm afraid this will not happen

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Who exactly do you suggest me to kiss, Rockman - 'cause I hope you don't mean that Mick and Keith have to kiss each other

proudmary, what would your honest reaction be if Keith walked on stage tonight and planted a big kiss on Mick's cheek? That's what should happen. At worst they should leave the show with their arms around each other. What a moment that would be.

That would be great! But I'm afraid this will not happen

One would think that if things are truly right between these guys then Keith would appear in some form tonight or at least have his name mentioned in one of the skits in a manner that at least hints of some form of reconciliation.

Whether this so called rift between Mick and Keith is for real (or is scripted) at some point there has to be some form of public affection shown towards one another. No better time for that to happen than in front of millions of viewers. Sure, we have heard of apologies and them getting together for some rehearsals, but it sure would go a long way towards ending all the speculation if they showed a little love for one another publicly. Tonight is a perfect opportunity for that to happen. If possible they should seize the moment.

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If that is right, I'm still wondering why Mick didn't read the book in advance and asked Keith to cut out the worst bits (Brenda and the todger bits). I'm sure he would have if asked to.