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Re: OT: ROY ORBISON
Posted by:
whitem8
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Date: May 3, 2012 09:01
Roy was a master. He oozed emotion, and had that sad lilting expressive range that draws you into his mini operas. He had a hard life too. With that said, for pure rock and roll grit, range, gentleness, and swagger, Lennon does it for me. Jagger is great for the Stones, but as a singer he is not that technically gifted, and relies a lot on phrasing and expressive strategies, and his famous swagger.
Re: OT: ROY ORBISON
Posted by:
Justin
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Date: May 3, 2012 09:06
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71Tele
Just wish he was playing that paisley Telecaster in this clip!
Ah yes the Pink Paisley...I think he's retired that one! Actually, the guitar he's playing in that clip is his own Fender signature model (2nd or 3rd edition by now) and the actual flame design is actually a paisley design...so it's a little bit of a callback to the original one...
Great story about your first gig! hahah...got any recordings from those days? Did you guys have the horns and backup singers too?
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-05-03 09:10 by Justin.
Re: OT: ROY ORBISON
Posted by:
stonesrule
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Date: May 3, 2012 10:11
"...oozed emotion." Beautiful white,8
The Orbison PBS special must have been on the air at least a thousand times in the US. Never can resist it. Certainly some fine moments from Springsteen and Costello, not to mention the ladies.
One of the most MUSICAL TV specials one could ever hope for.
The Orbison PBS special must have been on the air at least a thousand times in the US. Never can resist it. Certainly some fine moments from Springsteen and Costello, not to mention the ladies.
One of the most MUSICAL TV specials one could ever hope for.
Re: OT: ROY ORBISON
Posted by:
whitem8
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Date: May 3, 2012 11:03
Thanks stonesrule. Yup I have the DVD of Black and White Night on regular rotation. And it had to be done in black and white. The band cracks, but it is Roy that lifts all to heavenly heights with his soaring vocal gymnastics. Wonderful and a must own for music fans...
Re: OT: ROY ORBISON
Posted by:
keefriffhard4life
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Date: May 3, 2012 11:07
don't know if anyone saw a question i posted earlier:
recently there have been 2 roy orbison boxsets released, THE SOUL OF ROCK N ROLL and MONUMENT SINGLES COLLECTION 1960-1964. both sets have a fantastic tracklisting and the MONUMENT SINGLES COLLECTION has a live dvd. i see tons of reviews though complaining about the packaging of both sets. anyone own either of these and can comment on the packaging?
recently there have been 2 roy orbison boxsets released, THE SOUL OF ROCK N ROLL and MONUMENT SINGLES COLLECTION 1960-1964. both sets have a fantastic tracklisting and the MONUMENT SINGLES COLLECTION has a live dvd. i see tons of reviews though complaining about the packaging of both sets. anyone own either of these and can comment on the packaging?
Re: OT: ROY ORBISON
Posted by:
Green Lady
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Date: May 3, 2012 12:43
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71Tele
To my mind Rock 'n' Roll is different from "Rock". Rock 'n' Roll includes Orbison, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, and yes, the Rolling Stones. It swings, baby. But it includes ballads too. When I think of "Rock" I think Queen, Aerosmith, Guns 'n Roses, etc. It's whiter, it doesn't swing (usually). It is more devoid of rock 'n' roll's black and country influences. Example: Charlie is not a "rock" drummer, but he is a very good rock 'n' roll drummer. Yes, this is my somewhat subjective definition and yes there are acts who are both, but I think it's basically true. If you don't believe me, just listen to a straight "rock" band try to cover the Stones. The groove is never right because the bass player and drummer are playing "rock" as opposed to what Bill and Charlie did (which I won't label but which was not "rock" ).
Orbison was a great rock 'n' roll - as opposed to "rock" - singer. Was he the best? I don't pretend to know, but he was a singular talent. He looked different, he wrote beautiful soaring melodies, and he sang like an angel. Anyone who hasn't seen it should check out Black and White Night, which was a concert tribute to Roy Orbison. The backing band included Springsteen, Tom Waits, Elvis Costello, Jim Burton, Elvis Presley's rhythm section. Jennifer Warnes, k.d. Lange, and Bonnie Raitt on backing vocals. Magical.
Absolutely! Whatever he sang (and he sang everything from rockabilly to near-opera) he was always, unmistakably, passionately himself - "Caruso in sunglasses and a black leather jacket". I don't do "bests" - Roy Orbison was one of a kind, as all the truly great are.
Re: OT: ROY ORBISON
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
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Date: May 3, 2012 17:53
The vocal on "Running Scared" (among many others) is just beyond belief.
Re: OT: ROY ORBISON
Posted by:
mr_dja
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Date: May 3, 2012 18:04
1st off... Love Roy Orbison. Don't know if he was "the best" but definately very high on my list of favorite singers.
2nd -> @Tele: GREAT articulation of the difference between "rock & roll" and "rock" on the page one of this thread.
3rd: Humorous story on myself at the only time I got to see Roy live...
Summer 1988 (just a few months before Roy's death) I was working as a stage hand at a 2,000 theater on Cape Cod, Massachusetts. We were all thrilled when we saw Roy was scheduled for a show. The night of the show I was assigned to be in one of the spotlight booths above the stage. Pre-show it's a great spot for a 19 year-old to scope out the good looking women. Front row was a gorgeous woman, neck-line cut down to her navel (not all that common in 1988). She was obviously aware of the potential wardrobe malfunction and made sure to cover up every time she'd put her drink back on the floor. Pre-show conversation on the headsets was mainly a debate redarding if she'd forget to cover up... Fast forward to 30 minutes into the show...
Running follow spot for Roy was a pretty easy job as he just stands in one place while he plays. If it wasn't for the fact that the stage spun, I could have set the spot and just enjoyed the concert. As it was, I was still having the time of my life listening to Roy sing when, my attention was distracted by some movement in the crowd... You guessed it... She forgot to cover up! At that moment my spotlight did a figure 8 on the stage for a brief second until I got it refocused on Roy. The LD screamed at me demanding to know what happened. All I could say was, "She forgot to cover up". Silence on the headset as prayed that I wouldn't get in trouble. LD's voice: "OK. I understand. You're forgiven." If Roy noticed or said anything about it, I never found out. He never flinched.
Show went on without any more lighting or wardrobe malfunctions. I was truely blown away later in the show when, after playing "Pretty Woman", as the audience gave him a standing ovation, Roy played the song's signature guitar riff and I thought, "Cool, a little bit more." Nope. He played the entire song a second time! Heaven! Never before or since I seen an artist play a song twice in a row when it wasn't a part of a video shoot. Amazing.
It was a good night. 24 years later I can't tell you much more about the woman in the front row than I already have but I got to see and hear Roy play live, heard Pretty Woman TWICE, got Roy's autograph and will always be able to close my eyes and remember the sight & sound of him on that stage.
Thanks for indulging (triggering) my memories...
Peace,
Mr DJA
2nd -> @Tele: GREAT articulation of the difference between "rock & roll" and "rock" on the page one of this thread.
3rd: Humorous story on myself at the only time I got to see Roy live...
Summer 1988 (just a few months before Roy's death) I was working as a stage hand at a 2,000 theater on Cape Cod, Massachusetts. We were all thrilled when we saw Roy was scheduled for a show. The night of the show I was assigned to be in one of the spotlight booths above the stage. Pre-show it's a great spot for a 19 year-old to scope out the good looking women. Front row was a gorgeous woman, neck-line cut down to her navel (not all that common in 1988). She was obviously aware of the potential wardrobe malfunction and made sure to cover up every time she'd put her drink back on the floor. Pre-show conversation on the headsets was mainly a debate redarding if she'd forget to cover up... Fast forward to 30 minutes into the show...
Running follow spot for Roy was a pretty easy job as he just stands in one place while he plays. If it wasn't for the fact that the stage spun, I could have set the spot and just enjoyed the concert. As it was, I was still having the time of my life listening to Roy sing when, my attention was distracted by some movement in the crowd... You guessed it... She forgot to cover up! At that moment my spotlight did a figure 8 on the stage for a brief second until I got it refocused on Roy. The LD screamed at me demanding to know what happened. All I could say was, "She forgot to cover up". Silence on the headset as prayed that I wouldn't get in trouble. LD's voice: "OK. I understand. You're forgiven." If Roy noticed or said anything about it, I never found out. He never flinched.
Show went on without any more lighting or wardrobe malfunctions. I was truely blown away later in the show when, after playing "Pretty Woman", as the audience gave him a standing ovation, Roy played the song's signature guitar riff and I thought, "Cool, a little bit more." Nope. He played the entire song a second time! Heaven! Never before or since I seen an artist play a song twice in a row when it wasn't a part of a video shoot. Amazing.
It was a good night. 24 years later I can't tell you much more about the woman in the front row than I already have but I got to see and hear Roy play live, heard Pretty Woman TWICE, got Roy's autograph and will always be able to close my eyes and remember the sight & sound of him on that stage.
Thanks for indulging (triggering) my memories...
Peace,
Mr DJA
Re: OT: ROY ORBISON
Posted by:
71Tele
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Date: May 3, 2012 18:17
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mr_dja
1st off... Love Roy Orbison. Don't know if he was "the best" but definately very high on my list of favorite singers.
2nd -> @Tele: GREAT articulation of the difference between "rock & roll" and "rock" on the page one of this thread.
3rd: Humorous story on myself at the only time I got to see Roy live...
Summer 1988 (just a few months before Roy's death) I was working as a stage hand at a 2,000 theater on Cape Cod, Massachusetts. We were all thrilled when we saw Roy was scheduled for a show. The night of the show I was assigned to be in one of the spotlight booths above the stage. Pre-show it's a great spot for a 19 year-old to scope out the good looking women. Front row was a gorgeous woman, neck-line cut down to her navel (not all that common in 1988). She was obviously aware of the potential wardrobe malfunction and made sure to cover up every time she'd put her drink back on the floor. Pre-show conversation on the headsets was mainly a debate redarding if she'd forget to cover up... Fast forward to 30 minutes into the show...
Running follow spot for Roy was a pretty easy job as he just stands in one place while he plays. If it wasn't for the fact that the stage spun, I could have set the spot and just enjoyed the concert. As it was, I was still having the time of my life listening to Roy sing when, my attention was distracted by some movement in the crowd... You guessed it... She forgot to cover up! At that moment my spotlight did a figure 8 on the stage for a brief second until I got it refocused on Roy. The LD screamed at me demanding to know what happened. All I could say was, "She forgot to cover up". Silence on the headset as prayed that I wouldn't get in trouble. LD's voice: "OK. I understand. You're forgiven." If Roy noticed or said anything about it, I never found out. He never flinched.
Show went on without any more lighting or wardrobe malfunctions. I was truely blown away later in the show when, after playing "Pretty Woman", as the audience gave him a standing ovation, Roy played the song's signature guitar riff and I thought, "Cool, a little bit more." Nope. He played the entire song a second time! Heaven! Never before or since I seen an artist play a song twice in a row when it wasn't a part of a video shoot. Amazing.
It was a good night. 24 years later I can't tell you much more about the woman in the front row than I already have but I got to see and hear Roy play live, heard Pretty Woman TWICE, got Roy's autograph and will always be able to close my eyes and remember the sight & sound of him on that stage.
Thanks for indulging (triggering) my memories...
Peace,
Mr DJA
Great story, DJA...as for playing the signature song twice, I think that used to be more common back in the day. Roy was such a veteran and had done so many kinds of gigs in his life that your little "spotlight malfunction" probably didn't phase him at all.
Re: OT: ROY ORBISON
Posted by:
tomcasagranda
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Date: May 3, 2012 22:23
Roy Orbison was a great singer - fact.
Probably, like Billie Holliday, Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley, he had a fair amount of dross to sing through. Regeneration and Laminar Flow spring to mind.
I happen to enjoy his cover of Danny Boy on the Memphis album: I also like Coming Home from Class of 55. His Sings Don Gibson is a great album, whereas his Sings Hank Williams is spotty.
His Sun stuff is fairly uneven, but Monument material was great; check out his version of Beautiful Dreamer recorded for Monument.
Probably, like Billie Holliday, Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley, he had a fair amount of dross to sing through. Regeneration and Laminar Flow spring to mind.
I happen to enjoy his cover of Danny Boy on the Memphis album: I also like Coming Home from Class of 55. His Sings Don Gibson is a great album, whereas his Sings Hank Williams is spotty.
His Sun stuff is fairly uneven, but Monument material was great; check out his version of Beautiful Dreamer recorded for Monument.
Re: OT: ROY ORBISON
Posted by:
stonesrule
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Date: May 4, 2012 00:10
Love your story DJA. Love your words about closing your eyes and remembering. That's what it's all about.
Tom, those titles are amazing -- Regenration and Laminar Flow. OMG.
Thinking about Orbison for some strange reason brings Tom Jones to my mind.
"Green Grass of Home" and several others when he was at his peak were great.
Believe I also saw him on video with Eric Burdon, a fab combo. Of course, it might be a dream.
Funny story -- When I was a young reporter I saw Tom Jones in Las Vegas and was hustled into his dressing room after the show. Loaded with sleazy dames. I remmeber thinking, "At least 'our' -- ie: rock and roll -- groupies are classier than this lot!"
The worst thing about meeting some of these singers in tuxedoes were that their press agents would get them to dedicate songs to me in their club act. You can't imagine anything more horrifying to me, the young Rolling Stones fan, than suddenly having the spotlight at the Flamingo Hotel aimed at me and Robert Goulet, saying "Here's a special song for a special lady." OMG, I thought -- or the equivalent jargon of the times, "he means me." I wanted to DIE.
Especially when the song started off. "This if my first Affair. Please be Kind...
Couuldn't wait to get out of there!
Tom, those titles are amazing -- Regenration and Laminar Flow. OMG.
Thinking about Orbison for some strange reason brings Tom Jones to my mind.
"Green Grass of Home" and several others when he was at his peak were great.
Believe I also saw him on video with Eric Burdon, a fab combo. Of course, it might be a dream.
Funny story -- When I was a young reporter I saw Tom Jones in Las Vegas and was hustled into his dressing room after the show. Loaded with sleazy dames. I remmeber thinking, "At least 'our' -- ie: rock and roll -- groupies are classier than this lot!"
The worst thing about meeting some of these singers in tuxedoes were that their press agents would get them to dedicate songs to me in their club act. You can't imagine anything more horrifying to me, the young Rolling Stones fan, than suddenly having the spotlight at the Flamingo Hotel aimed at me and Robert Goulet, saying "Here's a special song for a special lady." OMG, I thought -- or the equivalent jargon of the times, "he means me." I wanted to DIE.
Especially when the song started off. "This if my first Affair. Please be Kind...
Couuldn't wait to get out of there!
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