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I have just compared all tracks of this time's official bootleg "L.A. Friday" with well known audience recordings "The Lost Millard Masters"(VGP-340, Disc5&6) and found these playings are completely same exclude some cuts between songs.
So, all tracks are definitely from July 13th, unless the audience recordings long believed date was wrong.

Cool. I have yet to see THIS QUESTION answered:

What is the source for this new "LA Friday"? Is it from here-to-fore unheard multi-tracks OR is it the well known audience tape?

IF it's the audience tape - what was ITS source?

Both Brussels and Hampton were well known multi-track soundboards while this one has always been an excellent audie.

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So just a little theory. The 18th was also a Friday, and a '3' could be mistaken for a '8'. Someone, somewhere, misread it, thinking it was the 18th, and named it "LA Friday".

It was called L.A. Friday Night because the bootleg packaging was lifted from a Rolling Stone article of the same title. Jann Wenner went to the show on the 11th (BTW, my 15th birthday) and raved for a few pages about it. Imagine how gaga he'd have been if he went on Sunday.

Does anyone have this article? Couldn't find it using google or o n Rolling Stone page.

Songs downloaded, am curious to listen tonight.

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At 0:31 into Honky Tonk there's a skip, and the intro seems to start over. Weird editing...

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Not on the flac file.

I want to get lost in your rock 'n roll and drift away

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At 0:31 into Honky Tonk there's a skip, and the intro seems to start over. Weird editing...

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Not on the flac file.

Well, I have the FLAC as well...

By the way, this version of Angie blows any previous version, including the '73 tour out of the water. Billy Preston does some true magic, and Wood is fantastic!

Mathijs

The Stones made me HAPPY ... again. I love it

Keep On Rolling

LOVE IT



“If you're going to kick authority in the teeth, you might as well use two feet.”

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I have just compared all tracks of this time's official bootleg "L.A. Friday" with well known audience recordings "The Lost Millard Masters"(VGP-340, Disc5&6) and found these playings are completely same exclude some cuts between songs.
So, all tracks are definitely from July 13th, unless the audience recordings long believed date was wrong.

Cool. I have yet to see THIS QUESTION answered:

What is the source for this new "LA Friday"? Is it from here-to-fore unheard multi-tracks OR is it the well known audience tape?

IF it's the audience tape - what was ITS source?

Both Brussels and Hampton were well known multi-track soundboards while this one has always been an excellent audie.

You don't really think they would release an Audience recording this early into their experiment?

Check the sample earlier in this thread. Its a full production this one.


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I have just compared all tracks of this time's official bootleg "L.A. Friday" with well known audience recordings "The Lost Millard Masters"(VGP-340, Disc5&6) and found these playings are completely same exclude some cuts between songs.
So, all tracks are definitely from July 13th, unless the audience recordings long believed date was wrong.

Cool. I have yet to see THIS QUESTION answered:

What is the source for this new "LA Friday"? Is it from here-to-fore unheard multi-tracks OR is it the well known audience tape?

IF it's the audience tape - what was ITS source?

Both Brussels and Hampton were well known multi-track soundboards while this one has always been an excellent audie.

You don't really think they would release an Audience recording this early into their experiment?

Check the sample earlier in this thread. Its a full production this one.

There isn't going to be any official release of an audience tape.

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At 0:31 into Honky Tonk there's a skip, and the intro seems to start over. Weird editing...

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Not on the flac file.

Well, I have the FLAC as well...

By the way, this version of Angie blows any previous version, including the '73 tour out of the water. Billy Preston does some true magic, and Wood is fantastic!

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In your humble opinion

amazing this t shirt for sale on Archive. JULY 9 !!
I like it in blue

"we know it's a bit late but we hope you don't mind if we stay"

I haven't listened to the whole thing yet; only had time to sample some select tracks but wow - this is great. Yeah, there's some sloppiness, but what raw energy and attitude. Mick sounds stoned out of his brain at times, seeming to forget lyrics and making things up but it's still great. This sounds very similar to a bootleg I used to have from LA, which I forget the title of; it had the huge eagle picture on the front cover and the back cover showed a billboard with all the dates and cities of the tour. Great to hear this with a new mix; sounds pretty damn good on my system. Can't wait till I have time to listen to the whole thing in one shot. This was a tour I was fascinated with as I was a rabid Stones fan, but at age 15 my parents absolutely refused to let me go to a Rolling Stones concert. My parents saw the Stones as agents of Satan which only increased my fascination, lol! How ectsatic I was at age 18 to see them for the first time on the '78 tour. This boot really brings me back to my youth! Great stuff!

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At 0:31 into Honky Tonk there's a skip, and the intro seems to start over. Weird editing...

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Not on the flac file.

Well, I have the FLAC as well...

By the way, this version of Angie blows any previous version, including the '73 tour out of the water. Billy Preston does some true magic, and Wood is fantastic!

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In your humble opinion

Pff, can you play a different tune for once please?!



“If you're going to kick authority in the teeth, you might as well use two feet.”

"This sounds very similar to a bootleg"
I think it sounds raw and in-your-face, some might say a bit dry and sterile but imo the lack of embellishment (reverb for ex.) only increases the power of the music.

It still sounds a bit hot/brickwalled to my ears but overall this seems to be a major achievement!

And it's pretty gutsy to release and entire single show, warts and all : CW f@cking up the beginning of HTW, Jagger hoarse on every other song, Preston's keyboard farts, etc... It's ALL on the archive. No Protools touch-ups!

Bill's bass is far too low in the mix and Jagger's too high, that's my only complaint.

Hope vol.4 will be as good... and please NO Atlantic City'89 or Miami'94. I can perfectly live with the Paradiso'95 club-shows.



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At 0:31 into Honky Tonk there's a skip, and the intro seems to start over. Weird editing...

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Not on the flac file.

Well, I have the FLAC as well...

By the way, this version of Angie blows any previous version, including the '73 tour out of the water. Billy Preston does some true magic, and Wood is fantastic!

Mathijs

In your humble opinion

Well, no, really not. And to add: this version of Sympathy is best ever as well, better than anything with Taylor.

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Well... sorry to piss on the thunder here, and I won't be saying nothing new either, but still: I think LA Friday is just ruined by Jagger's horrible and distasteful performance. I am surprised that the Stones were THAT good a band in 75, and Ronnie and Bill owned the show to my ears, but I'm afraid only die-very-hard fans could even tolerate to listen to such voice for 2 hours.

It's not even that his voice is shot - actually it's not, as can be heard from the occasional note that he forgot to growl. I can enjoy a purposeful, dedicated performance by a singer whose voice happens to be shot. But in 75, Jagger adopts this really annoying pose: "look at me, I'm so wasted", or worst: "I won't even care to sing for you because my aim is to have the ultimate ego-trip and to prove that you will kiss my as* even when I fart because I'm @#$%& Mick Jagger". The singer not the song? Lame lame lame...

Some will say he anticipated punk. Don't think so. Punk had a totally different context which made it cool - and then, who listens to recordings of live punk shows anyway?

Funny, I remember 15 years ago when I was a hard-as-they-come-die-hard-fan and I discovered the 75 shows - already then I thought, what's that?? And I HATED Billy Preston for his two songs, because they stretched my die-hard bad faith (who isn't in bad faith when a die-hard?) and almost forced me to confess that it was a relief to finally hear music and singing after 90 minutes of growling and messing about... Now thanks to this release I can find much to enjoy from the band besides the horrible singer: but I die easier today and I'm afraid that's not enough to sustain interest. For old time's sake, I bought this; out of curiosity, will listen to it thrice; and that will be enough for me - I'll go play some soul music instead. Hey, why not an old Preston 33?



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At 0:31 into Honky Tonk there's a skip, and the intro seems to start over. Weird editing...

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Not on the flac file.

Well, I have the FLAC as well...

By the way, this version of Angie blows any previous version, including the '73 tour out of the water. Billy Preston does some true magic, and Wood is fantastic!

Mathijs

In your humble opinion

Well, no, really not. And to add: this version of Sympathy is best ever as well, better than anything with Taylor.

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I have just compared all tracks of this time's official bootleg "L.A. Friday" with well known audience recordings "The Lost Millard Masters"(VGP-340, Disc5&6) and found these playings are completely same exclude some cuts between songs.
So, all tracks are definitely from July 13th, unless the audience recordings long believed date was wrong.

Cool. I have yet to see THIS QUESTION answered:

What is the source for this new "LA Friday"? Is it from here-to-fore unheard multi-tracks OR is it the well known audience tape?

IF it's the audience tape - what was ITS source?

Both Brussels and Hampton were well known multi-track soundboards while this one has always been an excellent audie.

You don't really think they would release an Audience recording this early into their experiment?

Check the sample earlier in this thread. Its a full production this one.

There isn't going to be any official release of an audience tape.

Theres no need since they obviously kept a great record of what they have!


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Well... sorry to piss on the thunder here, and I won't be saying nothing new either, but still: I think LA Friday is just ruined by Jagger's horrible and distasteful performance.

Actually -I really like it. It's different, and it really fits the sleaze and dirt that was this tour and these times. And, I think it actually is less 'worse' than on most audience tapes we had, which could be really sloppy at times.

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flac files on mac > to the NAS through ftp > high end hifi listening tonight.

Just trying HTW on computer : GREAT sound. You cannot complain about the guitars !! and Charlie is very here too (cymbals cristal clear).
Yes Mick seems ... stoned but it is a rough show like you wanted it.
9$ ? thank you @#$%& rolling stones

"we know it's a bit late but we hope you don't mind if we stay"

1975 Midnight Rambler is a monster! Love everything about it!

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At 0:31 into Honky Tonk there's a skip, and the intro seems to start over. Weird editing...

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Not on the flac file.

Well, I have the FLAC as well...

By the way, this version of Angie blows any previous version, including the '73 tour out of the water. Billy Preston does some true magic, and Wood is fantastic!

Mathijs

In your humble opinion

Well, no, really not. And to add: this version of Sympathy is best ever as well, better than anything with Taylor.

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In your most humble opinion

It's a corker !

Now, I am going to be outrageous with the following opinion, which I will also put as a topic - can Mick and Keith, or whosoever decides it, delete the issued live albums, i.e. Still Life and Love You Live, and replace them with archive concerts ?

I think the version of SFTD is OK, but not my favorite, certainly not better than Ya-Ya's... in my most humble opinion.

I prefer the raw sound of the earlier recording. This recording is sort of starting to lean toward what the song has become today, with the drums and piano being the centerpiece. This sounds very much like the "Vegas Era" Sympathy, only the 60's guitar part is still intact. So it's interesting, sort of a missing link in the evolution I had never heard, but I'd rather have the Ya-Ya's version.

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Well... sorry to piss on the thunder here, and I won't be saying nothing new either, but still: I think LA Friday is just ruined by Jagger's horrible and distasteful performance. I am surprised that the Stones were THAT good a band in 75, and Ronnie and Bill owned the show to my ears, but I'm afraid only die-very-hard fans could even tolerate to listen to such voice for 2 hours.

I tend to agree. I still have to listen to the entire show, but just some of the samples made me puke. Heartbreaker in particular...



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I think the version of SFTD is OK, but not my favorite, certainly not better than Ya-Ya's... in my most humble opinion.

I prefer the raw sound of the earlier recording. This recording is sort of starting to lean toward what the song has become today, with the drums and piano being the centerpiece. This sounds very much like the "Vegas Era" Sympathy, only the 60's guitar part is still intact. So it's interesting, sort of a missing link in the evolution I had never heard, but I'd rather have the Ya-Ya's version.

You think it sounds like the vegas era Sympathy?! Honestly?

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Well... sorry to piss on the thunder here, and I won't be saying nothing new either, but still: I think LA Friday is just ruined by Jagger's horrible and distasteful performance. I am surprised that the Stones were THAT good a band in 75, and Ronnie and Bill owned the show to my ears, but I'm afraid only die-very-hard fans could even tolerate to listen to such voice for 2 hours.

It's not even that his voice is shot - actually it's not, as can be heard from the occasional note that he forgot to growl. I can enjoy a purposeful, dedicated performance by a singer whose voice happens to be shot. But in 75, Jagger adopts this really annoying pose: "look at me, I'm so wasted", or worst: "I won't even care to sing for you because my aim is to have the ultimate ego-trip and to prove that you will kiss my as* even when I fart because I'm @#$%& Mick Jagger". The singer not the song? Lame lame lame...

Some will say he anticipated punk. Don't think so. Punk had a totally different context which made it cool - and then, who listens to recordings of live punk shows anyway?

Funny, I remember 15 years ago when I was a hard-as-they-come-die-hard-fan and I discovered the 75 shows - already then I thought, what's that?? And I HATED Billy Preston for his two songs, because they stretched my die-hard bad faith (who isn't in bad faith when a die-hard?) and almost forced me to confess that it was a relief to finally hear music and singing after 90 minutes of growling and messing about... Now thanks to this release I can find much to enjoy from the band besides the horrible singer: but I die easier today and I'm afraid that's not enough to sustain interest. For old time's sake, I bought this; out of curiosity, will listen to it thrice; and that will be enough for me - I'll go play some soul music instead. Hey, why not an old Preston 33?

well I agree with most of what you wrote about this LA Friday

I would say that Mick was not well inspired that day except on some numbers like Wild Horses, Midnight Rambler...
to me, he was better the previous days.

On Happy, Keith doesn't seem to be comfortable even almost lost during a few seconds.

But the sound quality is GREAT !!!

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At 0:31 into Honky Tonk there's a skip, and the intro seems to start over. Weird editing...

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Not on the flac file.

Well, I have the FLAC as well...

By the way, this version of Angie blows any previous version, including the '73 tour out of the water. Billy Preston does some true magic, and Wood is fantastic!

Mathijs

In your humble opinion

Well, no, really not. And to add: this version of Sympathy is best ever as well, better than anything with Taylor.

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In your most humble opinion

You had too many lemons for breakfast? Lol

I like the mix very well. not as brickwalled as Hampton.
perhaps Bob Clearmountain got wind about the complaints.

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I think the version of SFTD is OK, but not my favorite, certainly not better than Ya-Ya's... in my most humble opinion.

I prefer the raw sound of the earlier recording. This recording is sort of starting to lean toward what the song has become today, with the drums and piano being the centerpiece. This sounds very much like the "Vegas Era" Sympathy, only the 60's guitar part is still intact. So it's interesting, sort of a missing link in the evolution I had never heard, but I'd rather have the Ya-Ya's version.

You think it sounds like the vegas era Sympathy?! Honestly?

No, that's not what I said. I said it's starting to lean that direction. It's just not as raw as it once was. Still very different than Vegas Era (an era I have absolutely no problem with I'll add, that's when I got into them and saw them first) but different from the 60's. It's heading that direction. As I said, a missing link. The keyboards are coming in, multiple percussionists, etc. I still like it, just not as much as the Ya-Ya's version.



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Cool. I have yet to see THIS QUESTION answered:

What is the source for this new "LA Friday"? Is it from here-to-fore unheard multi-tracks OR is it the well known audience tape?

IF it's the audience tape - what was ITS source?

Both Brussels and Hampton were well known multi-track soundboards while this one has always been an excellent audie.[/quote]


You don't really think they would release an Audience recording this early into their experiment?

Check the sample earlier in this thread. Its a full production this one.[/quote]

No, I wouldn't think they would release an audience tape however an audie is the only way this show has ever been available. I have it downloaded and burned and plan to take it (reverently) to the "BIG" system in a little while.

You said it sounds very much like the vegas era Sympathy. The big difference is in 75 there were 2 guitars driving the song whereas the 'vegas' version the emphasis is on Chuck Leavell and the backing singers.