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some great Weaving songs
Posted by: ripthisjoint908 ()
Date: March 22, 2012 21:50

I've been introducing/educating my buddy about the stones and i really want to show him some good examples of keith and one of the other guitarists, doing some 'ancient form of weaving' what songs demonstrate this best would you say?

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: March 22, 2012 21:52

Start with Bright Lights, Big City from 1963 IBC Demo session. thumbs up





This features some damn fine guitar interaction...







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Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: mickjagger1009 ()
Date: March 22, 2012 21:52

Beast of Burden on the on the Live in Texas DVD.

Studio, or any, version of Respectable.

"You'll be studying history and you'll be down the gym. And I'll be down the pub, probably playing pool and drinking."

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: mr_dja ()
Date: March 22, 2012 21:55

I wish I could give you song titles but it's been a few weeks... I'd suggest listening to the new Hampton '81 live release with headphones on. I can't think of which songs but, because the guitars are panned left and right, on multiple occasions I found myself smiling/laughing as I heard the two of them (Ronnie & Keith) throwing licks back and forth to each other.

Peace,
Mr DJA

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: crumbling_mice ()
Date: March 22, 2012 22:06






Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: tumblingdice ()
Date: March 22, 2012 22:32

Beast of Burden has always been one of the best examples to me. Especially if you change settings and listen in different ways. I used to have a stereo that you could set for karaoke and all it really did was muffle a channel but when doing so you could hear so much that was hidden in a song and really appreciate underlying parts and weaves, for example

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: March 22, 2012 22:38

She's So Cold (studio version) is also rather underestimated weaving-wise. Live it's all Keith on the rythm of course but on EM it's quite a mosaice!!

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: March 22, 2012 22:42

delete.

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 22, 2012 22:53

Quote
MadMax
She's So Cold (studio version) is also rather underestimated weaving-wise. Live it's all Keith on the rythm of course but on EM it's quite a mosaice!!

You beat me to it...I was going to go with She's So Cold.

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: SweetThing ()
Date: March 23, 2012 02:02

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treaclefingers
Quote
MadMax
She's So Cold (studio version) is also rather underestimated weaving-wise. Live it's all Keith on the rythm of course but on EM it's quite a mosaice!!

You beat me to it...I was going to go with She's So Cold.

Agree with MadMax and Treacle F.....

What a silly throwaway this song was, but Keith and Ronnie make it something special with their guitar interaction. Ah, good old days....




Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: March 23, 2012 02:29

Live With Me - Ya Yas version (in fact the album has many great examples of weaving, before it was called that).

Satisfaction 1969 - version in Gimme Shelter film is best

Best of Burden - studio version, or one of several fine live versions

Just My Imagination - studio version is best

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 23, 2012 03:51

Quote
SweetThing
Quote
treaclefingers
Quote
MadMax
She's So Cold (studio version) is also rather underestimated weaving-wise. Live it's all Keith on the rythm of course but on EM it's quite a mosaice!!

You beat me to it...I was going to go with She's So Cold.

Agree with MadMax and Treacle F.....

What a silly throwaway this song was, but Keith and Ronnie make it something special with their guitar interaction. Ah, good old days....



And Mick is just over the top good on this. Especially the video.

Re: some great Weaving songs
Date: March 23, 2012 11:52

Dance (Pt. 1) might be the best example
Down In The Hole
Beast Of Burden
Respectable

However, it is live on stage the Stones really utilizes the weaving concept the most, imo, when the arrangements are a little loser.

In 69-73, the arrangements were stricter, focusing more on rhythm and lead and that made a more clearer soundscape, like for instance Satisfaction from Ya Yas and JJF from the same album. What makes this playing cool as well is that the rhythm guitar in fact plays a riff (instead of basic rhythm), while there is a great solo guitar on top.

Weaving makes the soundscape more unpredictable, imo. You never know where next lick will come from.

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Oslo, May 26 - Roskilde, July 3



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Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: Scooby ()
Date: March 23, 2012 12:11

The intercation between Keith and Brian in the early days was at times breathtaking, even on covers such as Around and Around & Route 66. Other examples are The Last Time and It's All Over Now.

In later years, Tumbling Dice with Mick T and Hey Negrita! with Ronnie stick out.

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: Muddyw ()
Date: March 23, 2012 14:37

Down In The Hole

Re: some great Weaving songs
Date: March 23, 2012 15:26

The ending from 3:28 says it all. Beautiful!





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Oslo, May 26 - Roskilde, July 3

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: pmk251 ()
Date: March 23, 2012 17:52

She's So Cold is mindless fun. But a little bit of that goes a long way. I find it goes in one ear and out the other. In the studio I do not know what Woody adds. BB and LIB proved that Keith can weave with himself to great effect. On stage Woody's contributions often feel like muddled confusion. The effect can be diluting. When Keith's on he does not need to "weave" with anyone.

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 23, 2012 22:22

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pmk251
She's So Cold is mindless fun. But a little bit of that goes a long way. I find it goes in one ear and out the other. In the studio I do not know what Woody adds. BB and LIB proved that Keith can weave with himself to great effect. On stage Woody's contributions often feel like muddled confusion. The effect can be diluting. When Keith's on he does not need to "weave" with anyone.

OK, and now you're just spoiling for a fight!

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: March 24, 2012 01:20

You never know where next lick will come from. <DP>

I do know: from Keith and Ron.
I prefer counterpoint.

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: MisterO ()
Date: March 24, 2012 01:46

I would say YCAGWYW on Love You Live

IMO the greatest weave ever.....The lead/rhythm starting at 3:17 is noting short of brillant!

BTW: Long time lurker......First time poster.....cool smiley









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Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 24, 2012 03:14

Sadly, the only weave we're getting from Keith these days is on his head.

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 24, 2012 03:16

Some great weavers in history:

Charlie Weaver
Dennis Weaver
Leave it to Weaver

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: SweetThing ()
Date: March 24, 2012 04:11

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treaclefingers
Some great weavers in history:

Charlie Weaver
Dennis Weaver
Leave it to Weaver

Weaving on a jetplane....and the original ...




Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: tomk ()
Date: March 24, 2012 05:13

Anything from the '78 tour.

Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: rocker1 ()
Date: March 24, 2012 05:42

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treaclefingers
Some great weavers in history:

Charlie Weaver
Dennis Weaver
Leave it to Weaver


Reminds me of an old story from the 70's:

Mick Jagger was at a party at the Playboy Mansion, and witnessed Dennis Weaver getting into a heated argument with Hugh Hefner. It escalated almost to the point of fisticuffs, with Hugh about to take a swing. Mick interceded, and in effort to calm the situation, forcefully said:

Hey! Hugh! Get off of McCloud!



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Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: rocker1 ()
Date: March 24, 2012 05:43


Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: Toru A ()
Date: June 9, 2012 02:40

Ancient Art of Weaving



Re: some great Weaving songs
Posted by: flacnvinyl ()
Date: June 9, 2012 03:08

By far the best example of guitar weaving ever caught on tape... When the Whip Comes Down - Live in 78





I remember hearing this track on Sucking In The 70s... What the...??? Where did this come from?? Then a few years late I picked up Handsome Girls!

Drake


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Date: June 9, 2012 15:31









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