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SwayStones
Aw Max,take it easy,,it seems you misunderstood me .
I wrote "No shepherds pie" because I don't know how to cook it -I wish someone could give me an easy & good receipe - so what I meant was "No shepherds pie for you Gazza and that's too bad since I like very much eating sp .
Do you get me now ?

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SwayStones
Aw Max,take it easy,,it seems you misunderstood me .
I wrote "No shepherds pie" because I don't know how to cook it -I wish someone could give me an easy & good receipe - so what I meant was "No shepherds pie for you Gazza and that's too bad since I like very much eating sp .
Do you get me now ?
I think what we do best is misunderstand each other


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Aw Max,take it easy,,it seems you misunderstood me .
I wrote "No shepherds pie" because I don't know how to cook it -I wish someone could give me an easy & good receipe - so what I meant was "No shepherds pie for you Gazza and that's too bad since I like very much eating sp .
Do you get me now ?
I think what we do best is misunderstand each other
Yeah,that's funny,I don't know why since you love/lust all of the French women you've ever met

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FREE SHEPHERDS PIE AND BEER AT IORR!!!!!
Get it while its hot... and cold.
SwayStones is waiting for you ...No beer & no Sherpherds pies ...sorry about that
sorry about that? huh?
Is there no sense of humor left on this board?
Aw Max,take it easy,,it seems you misunderstood me .
I wrote "No shepherds pie" because I don't know how to cook it -I wish someone could give me an easy & good receipe - so what I meant was "No shepherds pie for you Gazza and that's too bad since I like very much eating sp .
Do you get me now ?



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FREE SHEPHERDS PIE AND BEER AT IORR!!!!!
Get it while its hot... and cold.
SwayStones is waiting for you ...No beer & no Sherpherds pies ...sorry about that
sorry about that? huh?
Is there no sense of humor left on this board?
Aw Max,take it easy,,it seems you misunderstood me .
I wrote "No shepherds pie" because I don't know how to cook it -I wish someone could give me an easy & good receipe - so what I meant was "No shepherds pie for you Gazza and that's too bad since I like very much eating sp .
Do you get me now ?
This is my own recipe - feel free to change it up! Bon Chance, Sway
Shepard's Pie...Serves 4 to 6
1 kg (about 2lb) baking potatoes - aka "starchy", scrubbed & pealed & quartered
75 ml butter (1/4 cup)
125 ml creme freche (1/2 cup sour cream)
125 ml cream/milk (half a cup)
1 kg (or 1 1/2 to 2 lb)of ground beef (minced)
1 onion (finely chopped)
250 g sharp grated cheese: SEE NOTE AT END (1 cup Gruyere or cheddar or a bit of both)
500 g frozen veggies - English peas (or peas, corn, carrots - whatever - NOT SPINACH or anything too healthy
Seasoning to your taste:
Lea & Perrin's (Worcestershire for the US)
Little garlic/pepper/salt
About 500 ml (2 cups) some kind of thickened beef gravy that's a bit salty - I use Campbells Golden Mushroom Soup - but thickened beef stock will work
125 ml (1/4 c.) dry red wine.
In a large pot of salted boiling water, drop potatoes & allow to boil until done
Brown minced beef w/ onion, add salt, pepper & other seasonings.
Drain the meat, and add the "sauce" and wine and mix well.
Turn oven to 175 C/350 degrees
Remove the cooked potatoes from the pot & mash them getting as much air as you can (aka whipped), add butter, creme freche, cream, mix well. Add half the cheese to the potatoes & save the rest for the top.
Put the minced meat combo into the bottom of a lightly buttered casserole with high sides (almost like a souffle dish) aprox 3 quarts - don't know what the metric is for this! Sorry.
Add the frozen veggies to the top of the meat
Put the whipped potatoes on top of the veggies, making pretty designs with a large spoon. Sprinkle the remaining cheese, a little paprika, and pop in the oven.
Cook for about 35 minutes. Turn broiler on and leave the dish under the broiler - if no broiler turn temp up as high as it goes for 5 more minutes.
Bon appetite!
NOTES:
Keith DOES NOT LIKE cheese, so when I make this for him, I leave it out.
I tried my best to convert to metric - so please make allowances!
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forgive me...Shepherd's Pie is made with Lamb. Hence, the shepherd reference.
Shepherd's Pie with Beef is like the Rolling Stones covering a Beatles or Bob Dylan song...er...
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forgive me...Shepherd's Pie is made with Lamb. Hence, the shepherd reference.
Shepherd's Pie with Beef is like the Rolling Stones covering a Beatles or Bob Dylan song...er...
If you are going to step in and correct memphiscats on "what is what", it obligates you to post your entire recipe, as she did, not just post a snappy one line zinger referring to the freeeking beatledylans

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forgive me...Shepherd's Pie is made with Lamb. Hence, the shepherd reference.
Shepherd's Pie with Beef is like the Rolling Stones covering a Beatles or Bob Dylan song...er...
If you are going to step in and correct memphiscats on "what is what", it obligates you to post your entire recipe, as she did, not just post a snappy one line zinger referring to the freeeking beatledylans
OOPSY...yes the above recipe is "officially" for COTTAGE PIE! The Beggar's Banquet, akin to the cover version of Shepard's...However, in the U.S., we tend to refer to it as "Shepard's Pie."
Baa, baa...black sheep.
Treacle - please jump in with the "real" version - though I'm fearful of being accused of highjacking this thread towards the cooking networks.
Max's - as always - thank you, you're a great pal. C'mon down to Memphis for my Beggar's Banquet anytime!


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forgive me...Shepherd's Pie is made with Lamb. Hence, the shepherd reference.
Shepherd's Pie with Beef is like the Rolling Stones covering a Beatles or Bob Dylan song...er...
If you are going to step in and correct memphiscats on "what is what", it obligates you to post your entire recipe, as she did, not just post a snappy one line zinger referring to the freeeking beatledylans
OOPSY...yes the above recipe is "officially" for COTTAGE PIE! The Beggar's Banquet, akin to the cover version of Shepard's...However, in the U.S., we tend to refer to it as "Shepard's Pie."
Baa, baa...black sheep.
Treacle - please jump in with the "real" version - though I'm fearful of being accused of highjacking this thread towards the cooking networks.
Max's - as always - thank you, you're a great pal. C'mon down to Memphis for my Beggar's Banquet anytime!
If anything I bet you would be thanked for hijacking this particular thread
Thanks for the invite... I have been to Memphis a couple of times, saw a show at the Daisy theater, is it still there? Beal street is type of place every city needs.
I would actually like to see treacle's recipe for Sheepherder's pie, he is pretty smart, so Im curious what he has to say.... plus the more the merrier.
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I'm going to Clarksdale this year to check out the real thing.
Rock on!
Let me know if you're up for a road trip!
Clarksdale, MS - Birthplace of the BLUES!

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forgive me...Shepherd's Pie is made with Lamb. Hence, the shepherd reference.
Shepherd's Pie with Beef is like the Rolling Stones covering a Beatles or Bob Dylan song...er...
If you are going to step in and correct memphiscats on "what is what", it obligates you to post your entire recipe, as she did, not just post a snappy one line zinger referring to the freeeking beatledylans
OOPSY...yes the above recipe is "officially" for COTTAGE PIE! The Beggar's Banquet, akin to the cover version of Shepard's...However, in the U.S., we tend to refer to it as "Shepard's Pie."
Baa, baa...black sheep.
Treacle - please jump in with the "real" version - though I'm fearful of being accused of highjacking this thread towards the cooking networks.
Max's - as always - thank you, you're a great pal. C'mon down to Memphis for my Beggar's Banquet anytime!
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This is my own recipe - feel free to change it up! Bon Chance, Sway
Shepard's Pie...Serves 4 to 6
1 kg (about 2lb) baking potatoes - aka "starchy", scrubbed & pealed & quartered
75 ml butter (1/4 cup)
125 ml creme freche (1/2 cup sour cream)
125 ml cream/milk (half a cup)
1 kg (or 1 1/2 to 2 lb)of ground beef (minced)
1 onion (finely chopped)
250 g sharp grated cheese: SEE NOTE AT END (1 cup Gruyere or cheddar or a bit of both)
500 g frozen veggies - English peas (or peas, corn, carrots - whatever - NOT SPINACH or anything too healthy
Seasoning to your taste:
Lea & Perrin's (Worcestershire for the US)
Little garlic/pepper/salt
About 500 ml (2 cups) some kind of thickened beef gravy that's a bit salty - I use Campbells Golden Mushroom Soup - but thickened beef stock will work
125 ml (1/4 c.) dry red wine.
In a large pot of salted boiling water, drop potatoes & allow to boil until done
Brown minced beef w/ onion, add salt, pepper & other seasonings.
Drain the meat, and add the "sauce" and wine and mix well.
Turn oven to 175 C/350 degrees
Remove the cooked potatoes from the pot & mash them getting as much air as you can (aka whipped), add butter, creme freche, cream, mix well. Add half the cheese to the potatoes & save the rest for the top.
Put the minced meat combo into the bottom of a lightly buttered casserole with high sides (almost like a souffle dish) aprox 3 quarts - don't know what the metric is for this! Sorry.
Add the frozen veggies to the top of the meat
Put the whipped potatoes on top of the veggies, making pretty designs with a large spoon. Sprinkle the remaining cheese, a little paprika, and pop in the oven.
Cook for about 35 minutes. Turn broiler on and leave the dish under the broiler - if no broiler turn temp up as high as it goes for 5 more minutes.
Bon appetite!
NOTES:
Keith DOES NOT LIKE cheese, so when I make this for him, I leave it out.
I tried my best to convert to metric - so please make allowances!

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...may be Gazza will smell the nice smell from his place & he will be back on iorr .



Cheers, Sway. I use frozen veggies - not sure how it would cook with "fresh" but you could try it. I've seen versions w/ fresh carrots & peas...I'd suggest blanching the fresh veggies first or sautéing w/ the beef. The Frozen veggies just make it very easy & fast - not as much prep work & if I understand that you want to freeze the dish? Not sure but once you cover the meat w/ the frozen veggies & then cook it, you can always "freeze" the leftovers...somehow I think we've stumbled upon a language gap! If you'd rather say it in French, my sister-in-law will translate it for me!Quote
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This is my own recipe - feel free to change it up! Bon Chance, Sway
Shepard's Pie...Serves 4 to 6
1 kg (about 2lb) baking potatoes - aka "starchy", scrubbed & pealed & quartered
75 ml butter (1/4 cup)
125 ml creme freche (1/2 cup sour cream)
125 ml cream/milk (half a cup)
1 kg (or 1 1/2 to 2 lb)of ground beef (minced)
1 onion (finely chopped)
250 g sharp grated cheese: SEE NOTE AT END (1 cup Gruyere or cheddar or a bit of both)
500 g frozen veggies - English peas (or peas, corn, carrots - whatever - NOT SPINACH or anything too healthy
Seasoning to your taste:
Lea & Perrin's (Worcestershire for the US)
Little garlic/pepper/salt
About 500 ml (2 cups) some kind of thickened beef gravy that's a bit salty - I use Campbells Golden Mushroom Soup - but thickened beef stock will work
125 ml (1/4 c.) dry red wine.
In a large pot of salted boiling water, drop potatoes & allow to boil until done
Brown minced beef w/ onion, add salt, pepper & other seasonings.
Drain the meat, and add the "sauce" and wine and mix well.
Turn oven to 175 C/350 degrees
Remove the cooked potatoes from the pot & mash them getting as much air as you can (aka whipped), add butter, creme freche, cream, mix well. Add half the cheese to the potatoes & save the rest for the top.
Put the minced meat combo into the bottom of a lightly buttered casserole with high sides (almost like a souffle dish) aprox 3 quarts - don't know what the metric is for this! Sorry.
Add the frozen veggies to the top of the meat
Put the whipped potatoes on top of the veggies, making pretty designs with a large spoon. Sprinkle the remaining cheese, a little paprika, and pop in the oven.
Cook for about 35 minutes. Turn broiler on and leave the dish under the broiler - if no broiler turn temp up as high as it goes for 5 more minutes.
Bon appetite!
NOTES:
Keith DOES NOT LIKE cheese, so when I make this for him, I leave it out.
I tried my best to convert to metric - so please make allowances!
wow menphiscats ! Thanks you so much for your efforts .
I do appreciate you converted it into metrics .
BTW , I like it better with beef instead of lamb
What I don't understand is why you wrote "frozen vegetables "?
Usually I avoid using frozen vegetables if I want to keep the dish more than two days because unfrozen meals don't last several days .
Are you sure red wine is needed ? Like a "Boeuf Bourguignon "?
I am not sure I can find "Campbells Golden Mushroom Soup " over here and to be honest ,the name only scares me lol
You know what ?
I try to cook it soon and I post some pics ...may be Gazza will smell the nice smell from his place & he will be back on iorr .
but it's not at all needed in this recipe. (This is one of my "lazy night dishes.)
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A bunch of cannibals are standing around a pot that has a guy stuff in it, and one of the "little" cannibals is teasing the fellow with the feather. The "mama" cannibal reprimands...
"Stop playing with your food."
Cheers!

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Cheers, Sway. I use frozen veggies - not sure how it would cook with "fresh" but you could try it. I've seen versions w/ fresh carrots & peas...I'd suggest blanching the fresh veggies first or sautéing w/ the beef. The Frozen veggies just make it very easy & fast - not as much prep work & if I understand that you want to freeze the dish? Not sure but once you cover the meat w/ the frozen veggies & then cook it, you can always "freeze" the leftovers...somehow I think we've stumbled upon a language gap! If you'd rather say it in French, my sister-in-law will translate it for me!Quote
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memphiscats
This is my own recipe - feel free to change it up! Bon Chance, Sway
Shepard's Pie...Serves 4 to 6
1 kg (about 2lb) baking potatoes - aka "starchy", scrubbed & pealed & quartered
75 ml butter (1/4 cup)
125 ml creme freche (1/2 cup sour cream)
125 ml cream/milk (half a cup)
1 kg (or 1 1/2 to 2 lb)of ground beef (minced)
1 onion (finely chopped)
250 g sharp grated cheese: SEE NOTE AT END (1 cup Gruyere or cheddar or a bit of both)
500 g frozen veggies - English peas (or peas, corn, carrots - whatever - NOT SPINACH or anything too healthy
Seasoning to your taste:
Lea & Perrin's (Worcestershire for the US)
Little garlic/pepper/salt
About 500 ml (2 cups) some kind of thickened beef gravy that's a bit salty - I use Campbells Golden Mushroom Soup - but thickened beef stock will work
125 ml (1/4 c.) dry red wine.
In a large pot of salted boiling water, drop potatoes & allow to boil until done
Brown minced beef w/ onion, add salt, pepper & other seasonings.
Drain the meat, and add the "sauce" and wine and mix well.
Turn oven to 175 C/350 degrees
Remove the cooked potatoes from the pot & mash them getting as much air as you can (aka whipped), add butter, creme freche, cream, mix well. Add half the cheese to the potatoes & save the rest for the top.
Put the minced meat combo into the bottom of a lightly buttered casserole with high sides (almost like a souffle dish) aprox 3 quarts - don't know what the metric is for this! Sorry.
Add the frozen veggies to the top of the meat
Put the whipped potatoes on top of the veggies, making pretty designs with a large spoon. Sprinkle the remaining cheese, a little paprika, and pop in the oven.
Cook for about 35 minutes. Turn broiler on and leave the dish under the broiler - if no broiler turn temp up as high as it goes for 5 more minutes.
Bon appetite!
NOTES:
Keith DOES NOT LIKE cheese, so when I make this for him, I leave it out.
I tried my best to convert to metric - so please make allowances!
wow menphiscats ! Thanks you so much for your efforts .
I do appreciate you converted it into metrics .
BTW , I like it better with beef instead of lamb
What I don't understand is why you wrote "frozen vegetables "?
Usually I avoid using frozen vegetables if I want to keep the dish more than two days because unfrozen meals don't last several days .
Are you sure red wine is needed ? Like a "Boeuf Bourguignon "?
I am not sure I can find "Campbells Golden Mushroom Soup " over here and to be honest ,the name only scares me lol
You know what ?
I try to cook it soon and I post some pics ...may be Gazza will smell the nice smell from his place & he will be back on iorr .
LOL re Campbell's soup - yeah definitely an American-thing - I could horrify you with some of the recipes that involve "Campbell's soupbut it's not at all needed in this recipe. (This is one of my "lazy night dishes.)
Finally, just a bit of wine will cut the "saltiness" of the stock - not enough to make it like a bourguignon (mmm...love that dish - one of my faves!).
Looking forward to the pictures!!
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A bunch of cannibals are standing around a pot that has a guy stuff in it, and one of the "little" cannibals is teasing the fellow with the feather. The "mama" cannibal reprimands...
"Stop playing with your food."
Cheers!
Those zany cannibals!!!!
They are a lot of fun to party with... you just dont want to stay for dinner

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He's back. Everybody happy now?