Believe it or not, but I only saw it for the first time just yesterday! I brought it and I thoroughly enjoyed it! It gives me an even better respect for the album! I found Bill and Mick's take on recording the album very interesting! Keith spoken voice in the interview surprised me! He was talking normal and not putting on the ol' act! Now, all they need is to officially release @#$%& Blues! "I'm the man on the mountain, come on up!" Cheers!

I meant to say Bill and Mick's (Taylor)!

you know you can edit your posts to correct them instead of adding a new post with a correction!
just squish the "edit post" button you see under your post (after it's posted), make the changes then squish "save changes"!

but anyway glad you enjoyed the dvd! i did too, mostly!

with sssoul, thank's for the reply! Cheers!

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Believe it or not, but I only saw it for the first time just yesterday! I brought it and I thoroughly enjoyed it! It gives me an even better respect for the album! I found Bill and Mick's take on recording the album very interesting! Keith spoken voice in the interview surprised me! He was talking normal and not putting on the ol' act! Now, all they need is to officially release @#$%& Blues! "I'm the man on the mountain, come on up!" Cheers!

I loved Stones in Exile too - it was great. I loved all of the Dominque Tarle photos & the way they used the cuts from the album. Footage from the plane - Mick Taylor. Bobby Keys was AWESOME!! And I agree - release @#$%& Blues!!

What would have made it was actual Nellcote Footage.
It's a shame the current owners wouldn't allow the house to be shot again.

I don't think there was any any actual footage from back then represented in the movie, save one scene where it looks like that had actual footage shot off of the back patio/terrace looking throu columns over the neighboring area.

Did 25x5 have any vintage footage of Nellcote? I recall some quick scenes of the back stairs and across the harbor?

I couldn't't stand the staged basement footage in the documentary...

... and the choppy epileptic edit got on my nerves after 40 seconds.

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the current owners wouldn't allow the house to be shot again.

I wouldn't like my house to be shot ... would you ?

Keep On Rolling

The reconstructions make it a bit daft.

* His Majesty, Prince Jones smiled as he moved among the crowd *

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the current owners wouldn't allow the house to be shot again.

I wouldn't like my house to be shot ... would you ?

I would for a Stones movie...but I'm sure the renovations since that time have been extensive...that was 40 years ago and is presumably prime property.

Inside is probably unrecognizable.

I've never watched it twice. I remember being very disturbed to see how Anita turned out. I know they all have only so much time, but I think a long documentary on the Some Girls era would have been interesting too. It was a totally different band by then. Start with the Toronto Bust, the Mocambo, Margaret Trudeau, Anita out - Patty in, Bianca out - Jerry in. Another era where pressures created another Stones masterpiece, probably the last. From '72 to '78 is only six years but '72 is like the 60s, while '78 is punk disco at its zenith. In '72 heroin helped Keith create, in '78 it almost ended the band. Or at least his part in it.

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The reconstructions make it a bit daft.

i agree - those are the bits that let me only like it "mostly" instead of all the way.
some of them were quite poorly done in addition to the "why why why" aspect

Worth €100m now apparently.. Owned by a russian who unfortunately does not share our passion for what was created in his basement..

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The reconstructions make it a bit daft.

i agree - those are the bits that let me only like it "mostly" instead of all the way.
some of them were quite poorly done in addition to the "why why why" aspect

What parts were reconstructed? Once part to me that looked quite obviously re-created was the "footage" of the female back up singers in LA.

Overall a good documentary though.



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What parts were reconstructed?

there are scenes that are supposed to look like the Stones in the basement of Nellcote -
no faces, just bottles and ashtrays and guitars and bodies that are blaringly obviously not the Stones'

I agree. Those parts were a bit dubious.

But what could they do? There was hardly any original material. They tried to show a bit of the atmosphere back in Nellcote and as it's not really a Hollywood blockbuster couldn't invest too much money.So it ended looking a bit cheap and daft.
But it's still okay.Let us not be too critical . .

smile: i've already said i mostly liked it, CousinC!

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there are scenes that are supposed to look like the Stones in the basement of Nellcote -
no faces, just bottles and ashtrays and guitars and bodies that are blaringly obviously not the Stones'

rather those scenes than some overdubs by the guitar techs... ;-)

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smile: i've already said i mostly liked it, CousinC!

lol
I know, love . .

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The reconstructions make it a bit daft.

i agree - those are the bits that let me only like it "mostly" instead of all the way.
some of them were quite poorly done in addition to the "why why why" aspect

Well, this is interesting. I'll have to re-watch it this weekend or perhaps earlier if this week is crappy. I guess I was so enamored of seeing this specific time of the Stone's escapades captured in film, I didn't really watch it for accuracy - just the vibe & the Exile tunes. Were the plane scenes stollen from @#$%& Blues? I recognized some of scenes from CS (the famous throwing the TV off the balcony and the "in country" stuff w/ the old blues men)...was none of the footage from Stones in Exile orignal - was it all just lifted cuts from CS?
And I don't mean to wander off the reservation here but WHY DON'T they just clean up CS and release it? Cut the hard core drug stuff & the explicit sex scenes...I know that would make it choppy - but it's already choppy. And did anyone else think that Robert Frank was a bit of perv for some of the stuff he shot - not the Stones-specific stuff but the bedroom scene with him interviewing the girl? Or am I just being a prude?

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WHY DON'T they just clean up CS and release it?

... maybe because apart from the concert bits and some of the scraps of the Stones off stage,
it's mostly boring and grubby (never a good combination!)

apparently Keith said about it: "Forget vérité! I want poetry!"

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WHY DON'T they just clean up CS and release it?

... maybe because apart from the concert bits and some of the scraps of the Stones off stage,
it's mostly boring and grubby (never a good combination!)

apparently Keith said about it: "Forget vérité! I want poetry!"

Yeah I see where you're coming from - I guess for some of us, even seeing "boring and grubby Stones" is better than no Stones. And perhaps my suggestion of cleaning it up is in essence sanitizing something that might be better just left alone...Just don't know - these are ponderous thoughts for a Monday.
I like the Keith quote

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Yeah I see where you're coming from - I guess for some of us, even seeing "boring and grubby Stones" is better than no Stones.

right, and we who feel that way can watch the bootleg versions without anyone going to the expense/hassle of an official release.

i had a feeling you'd like that quote :E

ps: most of the boring grubbiness i'm referring to isn't the Stones - it's the hangers-on and feelers-up and that lot
although one of the feelers-up is supposedly Mick isn't it ... although that could be a reconstruction as well



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okay i just watched Stones in Exile again, and mostly liked it again!
memphiscats, there's no (0) evidence of anyone filming the Stones at Nellcote in 71 -
all the more reason to thank & praise Dominique Tarlé for his amazing photos.

and yep a lot of the footage is from CS Blues - it's almost like they did "clean up CS Blues and release it"
but the archival footage isn't "all just lifted cuts from CS Blues" - it includes bits from 68 through 72.
nothing that's really the Stones at Nellcote, though! all those scenes that sort of seem (if you don't look closely)
to be Stones at work at Nellcote are either reconstructed or taken from other times/places

but it is quite interesting, and the LA 72 rehearsal footage is very very cool!
it would be great to see a lot more of that



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I like the audio of them working on songs like Loving Cup.

One thing about Nellcote - when I was in the South of France a few years ago I found myself in Villefranche and went to Villa Nellcote. I had no idea where it was so I went to the tourist info place and asked for directions. The young woman working in there circled it on a map for us and said it was where a famous band stayed, she thought it was Status Quo? WTF!! I corrected her of course!! It's a short drive from the centre of town to the house, and I had Exile on the cd player of course. I have video footage of myself (taken by the wife) driving to the house with Ventilator Blues playing on the stereo. It was an awesome moment, and it was a stunning Summer's day. One thing that struck me when we got to the house and were taking a photo standing in front of the gates, was what a life of sheer opulence these guys (i.e. Stones) have had (well those that stayed in the band anyway). The property is incredible - starting with the huge grandiose gates and then beyond the circular driveway to the mansion, and this is where Keith lived when they were broke!! Was pretty cool to be standing outside the house where my favourite album was made which by the way was released on the day I was born...spooky..

I posted links to recent photos of Nellcote (circa 2008 or so)last year. You can still recognize the rooms from Tarles pics...

I had a link to a property page with pics of Nellcote - it was very well preserved and looked after - perhaps someone will have this link and can post. I noticed that the back door with columns was different - the columns area is now all filled in with a glass conservatory.

anybody knows if there is a way to isolate the tracks of the soundtrack= I would like to remove the interviews in the takes of Ventilator blues, Loving cup , etc, and just listen to the music.

Theres a clip on Ventilator Blues that sounds like another take or just an isolated track (acoustic guitar)