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Naturalust
I like to see it from that perspective instead of this greedy image some people who haven't a clue like to perpetuate. peace
Yeah.. but did you ever see the Mick pep talk video for the mechandise sellers on the tour.
Rock n Roll.
Not.
If you want to see Corporate Jagger in full flow then dig that one out.
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Rocky Dijon
It's all been downhill since Edith Grove. They only really played nice when they were toddlers.
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Redhotcarpet
They were friends up until Mick slept with Anita.
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Redhotcarpet
They were friends up until Mick slept with Anita.
Thing is I dont think they ever really were close friends, more like George (keith) hanging around John (mick). Mick seems like an independent and very different person who saw an oppurtunity to become a singer with the help of Brian, Korner and Keith. After being labled Jagger/Richards it's really a business, one which is crucial for Keith but not for Mick. Mick could always have gone solo (and fail), Keith is the one who's stuck within that partnership. Had Keith confronted Mick and done what he usually does the band would have gone out with Beggars.Quote
Rocky Dijon
It's all been downhill since Edith Grove. They only really played nice when they were toddlers.
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pmk251
Does anyone not think the band broke up in the '80's? Keith especially had some very cutting remarks about Jagger. Jagger obviously got (gets) on Keith's nerves. So why did Keith return? Only he knows and I doubt that he has been straight up about the reason. Was he afraid of life without the Stones? Was it the money? Was it some loyalty to his life time friend? Or to Charlie and Woody? Remember Keith seemed to be getting the better of the solo careers. In any event, when the band returned he was a different person, unnecessarily eager to claim his place as a rock star personality. He became clownish, eager to be perceived as a happy. But to me he looks like more of a martyr. There is almost a self loathing there, a man who is struggling to take himself seriously, a man at odds with his motivations. None of this is a problem for Jagger who relishes in his public persona and seems content with it. I see parallels between Keith and Jagger and Lennon and McCartney. One can see how McCartney got on Lennon's nerves. If Lennon had returned would it feel right?
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pmk251
Does anyone not think the band broke up in the '80's? Keith especially had some very cutting remarks about Jagger. Jagger obviously got (gets) on Keith's nerves. So why did Keith return? Only he knows and I doubt that he has been straight up about the reason. Was he afraid of life without the Stones? Was it the money? Was it some loyalty to his life time friend? Or to Charlie and Woody? Remember Keith seemed to be getting the better of the solo careers. In any event, when the band returned he was a different person, unnecessarily eager to claim his place as a rock star personality. He became clownish, eager to be perceived as a happy. But to me he looks like more of a martyr. There is almost a self loathing there, a man who is struggling to take himself seriously, a man at odds with his motivations. None of this is a problem for Jagger who relishes in his public persona and seems content with it. I see parallels between Keith and Jagger and Lennon and McCartney. One can see how McCartney got on Lennon's nerves. If Lennon had returned would it feel right?
It's been said by many people close to the band that in the wake of WWIII and following Dirty Work, the band rather quietly and privately broke up but never said so officially. Guessing they wanted the public to continue thinking of the Stones as an ongoing band just in case...It took the diplomacy of buffer zone Ron Wood to get Mick and Keith to speak to each other again leading to the reconvening in 1989. Mick and Keith both knew that the fans were eager to see both of them in the context of The Rolling Stones, and Mick especially learned the hard way that he was never going to be a huge draw as a solo act. Another Stones album and tour? The Glimmer twins knew there was a fortune to be made by working as the Stones again. Money talks. I don't think they really hate each other. They just drifted towards different lifestyles and didn't have much in common as the years rolled on.
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Grison
Do you have a close friend in your life which you got along for 50 years? Did anyone of you ever experience such long life ?
All on this board must admit with a NO. Mick and Keith get a long very well, but argue like all other people. I am pretty sure they know exactly where their way of living is and they now that it is thousand miles apart, but still so close to accept each others dilemmas.
And with a little bit of big money the stone is rolling.
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Grison
Do you have a close friend in your life which you got along for 50 years? Did anyone of you ever experience such long life ?
All on this board must admit with a NO. Mick and Keith get a long very well, but argue like all other people. I am pretty sure they know exactly where their way of living is and they now that it is thousand miles apart, but still so close to accept each others dilemmas.
And with a little bit of big money the stone is rolling.
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21stcenturystones
they (Stones) don't care one bit about you...just your money..been that way since bout 1981
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Bliss
Read or re-read this article by journalist Bill Wyman.
[www.slate.com]
You will get a real sense of what working with Keith turned into for Mick after the first few years of their creative and business partnership.
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Bliss
Read or re-read this article by journalist Bill Wyman.
[www.slate.com]
You will get a real sense of what working with Keith turned into for Mick after the first few years of their creative and business partnership.
Wasn't this proved to be made by a fan?
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21stcenturystones
they (Stones) don't care one bit about you...just your money..been that way since bout 1981
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21stcenturystones
they (Stones) don't care one bit about you...just your money..been that way since bout 1981
Sorry but the Rolling Stones set ticketprice records since 1972. They always had the highest ticket prices when getting on tour and not just since 81.