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Yeah it's Jack, but that's a vibraphone. They are probably recordings
Yeterday's Papers.

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Dunno why some think he was only at RCA sessions!?

LSTNT seems a definite, but Ruby Tuesday seems less certain as it could be Brian playing piano on that.

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Dunno why some think he was only at RCA sessions!?

LSTNT seems a definite, but Ruby Tuesday seems less certain as it could be Brian playing piano on that.

Possibly because Jack, at that time, was pretty much L.A.-based. Doesn't mean he couldn't travel and go elsewhere...

At Olympic in late 1966 and also at Redlands and Olympic in Spring 1969.

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I've tried to do my best for this one HM if ya see what I mean



and once again thanks for having uploaded it first in Rockeee's thread

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Alexandra Palace, 26 June 1964
Photo by Frank Monaco

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An uncomfortable threesome, Tangiers 1967
Michael Cooper

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What always amazes me is how clearly Brian's status within the band - and perhaps even his state of mind who knows - is reflected in the photos. He was simply the coolest looking pop star from 1963 to 1966. Especially in 1965/66 he really defined the pop asthetics with his looks (and still looks great by today's standards). But then he suddenly seemed to lost it all, and started looking miserable. I think I haven't seen any picture from 1967 to 1969 that I would call great-looking (physically or clotheswise). But Keith, by contrast, was this big-eared, uncharismatic little-boy, looking uncomfortable in his clothes, like all the way from the beginning to early 1967 but then suddenly - within a few monts or so - transformed into this charismatic rock god who defined the rock star out-look.

Well, that's at laest what my aesthetic eye says, so...

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Olympic Sound Studios - November/December 1966 - By Michael Cooper

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NME October 21 1966

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Alexandra Palace, 26 June 1964
Photo by Frank Monaco

This is a great photo, all you notice are the two striped shirts.

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Had they included him in the JJF video he would have dominated it despite Mick's dance and Keiths shades.

What do you mean? The pic posted by Novica on Feb. 28 at 15:19 is from the JJF video. You have to wait all of 20 seconds to see him -- before Keith shows up!

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Had they included him in the JJF video he would have dominated it despite Mick's dance and Keiths shades.

What do you mean? The pic posted by Novica on Feb. 28 at 15:19 is from the JJF video. You have to wait all of 20 seconds to see him -- before Keith shows up!

And he looks like the coolest cat on earth in that video!

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Fantastic shot! However, almost no one is looking at Brian. Wonder what happened to the left of him on stage..

Mick Jagger is whats happening.

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I happened to hear "Under My Thumb" the other day (forget where I was when I heard it) and it struck me how utterly cool the intro to that is, and how this could have only happened with Brian. Jagger-Richards was the songwriting powerhouse, but Brian was the musical secret weapon. He was the "x" factor on "Thumb", "Lady Jane", "Ruby Tuesday" - all the best stuff of their pop period. When they lost him they replaced him (musically) with what we now know as the classic Stones Open G formula, which is very, very cool. But sometimes it's easy to forget that there was a Stones before open G, and Brian was the extra ingredient - the "fairy dust", or whatever you want to call it.

Such a shame that that wasn't enough to give him the confidence he so obviously lacked. I think not being able to write songs and compete with Mick and Keith was a terrible burden for Brian. Needlessly so, in my view, as very, very few people have that gift. But his ability to pick up an instrument and turn a pop song into a hit instinctively is almost as great a gift, and had he been satisfied with that role, I think he could have produced a lot more great music with the band.

My two cents anyway...

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I happened to hear "Under My Thumb" the other day (forget where I was when I heard it) and it struck me how utterly cool the intro to that is, and how this could have only happened with Brian. Jagger-Richards was the songwriting powerhouse, but Brian was the musical secret weapon. He was the "x" factor on "Thumb", "Lady Jane", "Ruby Tuesday" - all the best stuff of their pop period. When they lost him they replaced him (musically) with what we now know as the classic Stones Open G formula, which is very, very cool. But sometimes it's easy to forget that there was a Stones before open G, and Brian was the extra ingredient - the "fairy dust", or whatever you want to call it.

Such a shame that that wasn't enough to give him the confidence he so obviously lacked. I think not being able to write songs and compete with Mick and Keith was a terrible burden for Brian. Needlessly so, in my view, as very, very few people have that gift. But his ability to pick up an instrument and turn a pop song into a hit instinctively is almost as great a gift, and had he been satisfied with that role, I think he could have produced a lot more great music with the band.

My two cents anyway...

I stated on another thread that Brian's multi-instrumentalism was suddenly out of fashion as rock turned to a guitar dominated sound for some years. Brian was not prepared to pick up his axe and play, or at least not play harder edged rock, a music he was never comfortable with. The one time innovator was now passe.

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I happened to hear "Under My Thumb" the other day (forget where I was when I heard it) and it struck me how utterly cool the intro to that is, and how this could have only happened with Brian. Jagger-Richards was the songwriting powerhouse, but Brian was the musical secret weapon. He was the "x" factor on "Thumb", "Lady Jane", "Ruby Tuesday" - all the best stuff of their pop period. When they lost him they replaced him (musically) with what we now know as the classic Stones Open G formula, which is very, very cool. But sometimes it's easy to forget that there was a Stones before open G, and Brian was the extra ingredient - the "fairy dust", or whatever you want to call it.

Such a shame that that wasn't enough to give him the confidence he so obviously lacked. I think not being able to write songs and compete with Mick and Keith was a terrible burden for Brian. Needlessly so, in my view, as very, very few people have that gift. But his ability to pick up an instrument and turn a pop song into a hit instinctively is almost as great a gift, and had he been satisfied with that role, I think he could have produced a lot more great music with the band.

My two cents anyway...

I stated on another thread that Brian's multi-instrumentalism was suddenly out of fashion as rock turned to a guitar dominated sound for some years. Brian was not prepared to pick up his axe and play, or at least not play harder edged rock, a music he was never comfortable with. The one time innovator was now passe.

You make a point I almost included but it made me too sad: The irony of the British rock scene (including the Stones) returning to bluesy roots music circa 1968 basically meant that Brian's experimental role was no longer necessary. I say "ironic" because Brian was initially such a lover of the blues, but he really found his form on the pop stuff. When the pop period was over, they didn't much need Brian, as it was easier and faster for Keith to just do all the guitar parts in the studio. However, when they wanted to return to the road and needed a functioning second guitarist again it spelled the end of Brian in the group, as we all know.

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I dont agree at all. Keith was still the school boy in 1966 lurking at Brians and Anitas place, the power of the hip crowds in London, the place to be. When Anita leaves Brian, Brian becomes a silent ghost and tries to escape by suicide or/and drugs. He doesnt dare facing the band and he's paranoid about what they think of him and how Anita could be at the studio. Then he's fired. And then he dies. That's what happened to him after Anita left him. The busts didnt help. Neither the escape thru drugs.

Erk, I was just talking about their 1966 clothes, Brian and Keith wore some fine looking threads that year.

A pair of groovy pop superstars with cool guitars, clothes and chicks.

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I happened to hear "Under My Thumb" the other day (forget where I was when I heard it) and it struck me how utterly cool the intro to that is, and how this could have only happened with Brian. Jagger-Richards was the songwriting powerhouse, but Brian was the musical secret weapon. He was the "x" factor on "Thumb", "Lady Jane", "Ruby Tuesday" - all the best stuff of their pop period. When they lost him they replaced him (musically) with what we now know as the classic Stones Open G formula, which is very, very cool. But sometimes it's easy to forget that there was a Stones before open G, and Brian was the extra ingredient - the "fairy dust", or whatever you want to call it.

Such a shame that that wasn't enough to give him the confidence he so obviously lacked. I think not being able to write songs and compete with Mick and Keith was a terrible burden for Brian. Needlessly so, in my view, as very, very few people have that gift. But his ability to pick up an instrument and turn a pop song into a hit instinctively is almost as great a gift, and had he been satisfied with that role, I think he could have produced a lot more great music with the band.

My two cents anyway...

I stated on another thread that Brian's multi-instrumentalism was suddenly out of fashion as rock turned to a guitar dominated sound for some years. Brian was not prepared to pick up his axe and play, or at least not play harder edged rock, a music he was never comfortable with. The one time innovator was now passe.

You make a point I almost included but it made me too sad: The irony of the British rock scene (including the Stones) returning to bluesy roots music circa 1968 basically meant that Brian's experimental role was no longer necessary. I say "ironic" because Brian was initially such a lover of the blues, but he really found his form on the pop stuff. When the pop period was over, they didn't much need Brian, as it was easier and faster for Keith to just do all the guitar parts in the studio. However, when they wanted to return to the road and needed a functioning second guitarist again it spelled the end of Brian in the group, as we all know.

I totally agree with this. However, the Stones could easily have utilized Brian's fortes if they wanted to, and if he was sober enough, that is.

No Expectation proves it, imo.