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I never really listened to Whitney. But when I was in middle school in the early 90's she was huge. She was played at every dance, so I definitely know her music. In 6th grade a friend and I had to make a movie for theater class, and I don't know how we came up with it or why, but we made "The Bodyguard 2: She's Less Talented And White This Time". "She" was played by my friends little sister, and there was basically a loose plot that was a series of attempts on her life by me, which my friend "The Bodyguard" would thwart and the scene would erupt into us basically wrestling and hitting each other, and in each scene one would hit the other too hard, the other would get mad, and it devolved into an actual fight. Good times.

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ....DUDE!!!!! that is funnier asthatanything.... is the video on youtube? .... it sounds funny!! Have you gone on to be a real Hollywood film mogul?

No it's not on YouTube, I just checked. We filmed it over at my friends house with his parents camcorder, so I didn't have the tape ever. The last time I saw it was in high school we dug it out and had a laugh with it, but years later we went looking for it and it was either lost or had been taped over, I don't know. I checked on YouTube after you asked that, because I thought it was possible if they found it they could have put it up, but to my relief it isn't. And no, I'm not a Hollywood film mogul, I'm in the air freight business. My leading man days are over.

Well thats too bad, I bet it would be a hoot... that is the funniest sounding thing I have heard today, I bet it was funny... but thinking about it.... isnt that kind of advanced for 6th graders?.... ah you lucky kids these/those days... by golly when I was kid.... walking uphill, both ways, to school in constant driving blizzard... and once we got there..... we had to make our movies on hand written flip cards.

Thnaks for the laugh....that was funny...

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Well thats too bad, I bet it would be a hoot... that is the funniest sounding thing I have heard today, I bet it was funny... but thinking about it.... isnt that kind of advanced for 6th graders?.... ah you lucky kids these/those days... by golly when I was kid.... walking uphill, both ways, to school in constant driving blizzard... and once we got there..... we had to make our movies on hand written flip cards.

Thnaks for the laugh....that was funny...

Well, it wasn't nearly as advanced as kids these days. We were just playing around with a camera. And with no editing software we had to be a little creative. Each scene would start and end with one person off camera, as somebody had to start and stop it for each scene. With each attempt on her life she would run off screaming while I battled with the Bodyguard, and when we finally ran out of steam she would stop the camera.

We had some videos that were funnier than that, like a series we made about a bumbling superhero who totally sucked, and the villain (played by me again) would always beat him and do something terrible like set him on fire. We had no special effects, it would just be me throwing water on him and saying it was gasoline, then striking a lighter, then cut to him laying in bed moaning with his entire head and face covered in ace bandages. Then he would escape from the hospital to find me, and I'd find some other way to mutilate him.

The Bodyguard 2 always sticks out though, I think that was the first one we made. And when I heard about Whitney dying, that was the first thing that popped into my head.

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You actually must be a total retard to be able to make the switch from my dislike of technical wizardry to my 'satisfaction' when comparing the way Jones and Houston died, the latter of which I didn't say a word because I really have no interest in that.

Disturbed you are.<Mathijs>


Why doesn't it occur to you when someone passed away 1 day ago, the last thing most people are interested in is your dislike about (her) singing abillties.

Maybe that makes you understand my "switch", not to be taken literally. And you know it.

Give him a break Amsterdamned. He probably had a hard day and a couple drinks at that. Everyone deserves to say whatever thay want. It was damn insensitive but we could all see that from reading it. Rene' doesn't own this board and has no right to tell you to leave, that was just plain rude.

I appreciate your posts here and just want to tell you that, and not to take ourselves too seriously. Mathijs probably doesn't sing much anyway so who is he to judge the talented American gospel-based singer we lost in Whitney. I doubt many people dissing her have even heard her less popular songs. I assure you, she could sing rock and roll if she wanted to, it just wasn't her thing. Hang in there bro, we all are just human and flawed here. peace

Maybe it's my autistic nature, but I truly don't see what is insensitive about my statement that I find her music soulless 80's kitch and her voice and vocals totally over the top. Although, I must admit after being bombarded with her music the last couple of days, she wasn't as terrible at that as Maria Carey, whom took it it a couple of steps further.

Mathijs

People with autism or related forms have emotions, they just show it in a different way

God bless you Whitney ...

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Shameful: Sony raised prices on Whitney Houston’s digital music 30 minutes after her death
February 13, 2012 | Sean Ludwig

As much criticism as record labels receive for how they treat artists, Sony Music might take the cake. The company pulled the ultimate in shameful activities this weekend by raising the price on Whitney Houston’s Ultimate Collection album on iTunes and Amazon within 30 minutes of her death on Saturday.

Music mega-star Whitney Houston died on Saturday at the age of 48. And when a high-profile artist passes away, fans often look to re-experience their music, which causesdigital and physical sales soar. Most recently, Michael Jackson’s catalog considerably jumped on the charts after his death.

But instead of reverence in the wake of Houston’s passing, Sony chose to raise the price of one of her most popular hits collections. The Ultimate Collection album in the U.K. jumped in price by more than 60 percent from £4.99 to £7.99 within 30 minutes of Houston’s death, according to Digital Spy. The album price fell back down to £4.99 some time during the weekend, but it’s unclear when it happened.

Fans originally blamed Apple for the price hike on iTunes, but The Guardian is reporting that Apple automatically raised the price after Sony Music “lifted the wholesale price” of the album.

Houston’s Ultimate Collection was originally released in 2007 and was the second top-selling album on iTunes on Monday morning in the U.K., according to The Guardian. In the U.S., Houston’s 2000 Greatest Hits collection is currently sitting in the number two slot on iTunes album sales chart, while Houston’s “I Will Always Love You,” her most popular song ever, is currently sitting at the number one position for individual song sales.

Houston’s catalog is expected to dominate the music charts during the next week, according to the Official Charts Company.

In a free market that's just called supply and demand. Mo worries peace

"Whitney-houstons-erratic-behavior-had-been-building-for-some-time-source-says"

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Right on stupidguy2. A heartbeat is a heartbeat--any way you look at it.

I don't think people realize just where this "indifference" really stems from. I put the blame squarely on our media: TV and the internet. It's gotten so bad now that death has become this place that we send our troubled celebrities when we're just tried of reading/hearing about them on the news. People start to wish death on them just to get them out of their hair: "Thank God you're dead. Now I don't have to hear about you anymore." I suspect most people aren't aware of this but they'd rather go with the more accessible (but flawed) "you don't even know her" or "she was going to die any day now anyway" logic.

When I first started surfing the net, more than 15 years ago, I was always amazed at some of the comments posted about certain people, things.
So I think the internet has just made their callousness accepted, or has given it a forum. I have a friend who is this cynical and whenever someone famous dies -
'I'm so sick of hearing about so-and-so - they were'nt that great..'
Its the inevitable response and I think it must be just part of some people's nature to be that dismissive or unmoved, unless its somebody they care about.
The notion that you can't feel something over a famous person's death or you can only feel bad for someones whose musical style you like, is shallow.
Houston's trajectory is, I think, what makes people feel sadness because we all watched it, Just like we may have watched it with people we know personally....that makes it relatable and human - to care about someone you didn't know.

I get tired of the fact that when ever someone famous dies people who didn't know the person have to go out of their way to make it seem like they are really effected by the death. WH has done nothig in years. I am sure most on this board have never thought much of her music. But read the posts. Its like posters feel like they have to say something positive and give their feelings. Rubbish. Hey guys..Neither WH or her family are reading this board. And God help anyone who says they didn't live her music. Its like you slapped another poster in the mouth.


All we are missing from WH dying is articles in scandel magazines about her drug use. Thats it. Just like all we missed from Lennon dying is some average later day pop songs. All we mised from Elvis dying was a fat way past his prime singer, singing old songs. Why is there the need to act like the world is going to miss a person everytime they die. Its very annoying.

Its a shame for her family, and that a life ended short, but it doesn't effect one person on IORR. I wish people stopped the forced caring, and stop feeling the need to build WH up just because she died.



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"I wish people stopped the forced caring." Why do you assume it is forced, Brian Walker? Not my part, anyway. I really liked her even if she clearly had problems from early on. If you don't like the artist - don't post here. No one is forcing you to care!

Another Whitney video you say? ...sure, no problem.... how about this one....

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In a free market that's just called supply and demand. Mo worries peace

Yeah, it's economics. The moral of the story is don't wait until somebody dies to buy their music.

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"I wish people stopped the forced caring." Why do you assume it is forced, Brian Walker? Not my part, anyway. I really liked her even if she clearly had problems from early on. If you don't like the artist - don't post here. No one is forcing you to care!

OK..I guess you life is devasted by the death of some women who really doesn't do music anymore. I guess someone who had some hits 20 years ago is really going to be missed by the world. Give me a break.

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[all we missed from Lennon dying is some average later day pop songs.

You're walkin on thin ice brainwalker. Please don't use "we" in your posts because you don't speak for me and probably not the majority of folks here.

I try to take people at face value and would suggest you do the same. If someone feels bad for whatever reason who are you to tell them it is trivial? You can't argure with peoples feelings bro, I'm surprised your wife or girlfriend hasn't taught you that yet. That statement on Lennon pisses me off, I suggest you speak for yourself. peace

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"I wish people stopped the forced caring." Why do you assume it is forced, Brian Walker? Not my part, anyway. I really liked her even if she clearly had problems from early on. If you don't like the artist - don't post here. No one is forcing you to care!

OK..I guess you life is devasted by the death of some women who really doesn't do music anymore. I guess someone who had some hits 20 years ago is really going to be missed by the world. Give me a break.

Well, I guess she was important enough for you to continue posting on a thread about her death. If she's so irrelevant you might want to stop spending time talking about her.

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Right on stupidguy2. A heartbeat is a heartbeat--any way you look at it.

I don't think people realize just where this "indifference" really stems from. I put the blame squarely on our media: TV and the internet. It's gotten so bad now that death has become this place that we send our troubled celebrities when we're just tried of reading/hearing about them on the news. People start to wish death on them just to get them out of their hair: "Thank God you're dead. Now I don't have to hear about you anymore." I suspect most people aren't aware of this but they'd rather go with the more accessible (but flawed) "you don't even know her" or "she was going to die any day now anyway" logic.

When I first started surfing the net, more than 15 years ago, I was always amazed at some of the comments posted about certain people, things.
So I think the internet has just made their callousness accepted, or has given it a forum. I have a friend who is this cynical and whenever someone famous dies -
'I'm so sick of hearing about so-and-so - they were'nt that great..'
Its the inevitable response and I think it must be just part of some people's nature to be that dismissive or unmoved, unless its somebody they care about.
The notion that you can't feel something over a famous person's death or you can only feel bad for someones whose musical style you like, is shallow.
Houston's trajectory is, I think, what makes people feel sadness because we all watched it, Just like we may have watched it with people we know personally....that makes it relatable and human - to care about someone you didn't know.

I get tired of the fact that when ever someone famous dies people who didn't know the person have to go out of their way to make it seem like they are really effected by the death. WH has done nothig in years. I am sure most on this board have never thought much of her music. But read the posts. Its like posters feel like they have to say something positive and give their feelings. Rubbish. Hey guys..Neither WH or her family are reading this board. And God help anyone who says they didn't live her music. Its like you slapped another poster in the mouth.


All we are missing from WH dying is articles in scandel magazines about her drug use. Thats it. Just like all we missed from Lennon dying is some average later day pop songs. All we mised from Elvis dying was a fat way past his prime singer, singing old songs. Why is there the need to act like the world is going to miss a person everytime they die. Its very annoying.

Its a shame for her family, and that a life ended short, but it doesn't effect one person on IORR. I wish people stopped the forced caring, and stop feeling the need to build WH up just because she died.

bri...did someone take a piss in your cheerios this morning?

marilyn - dead - some years later - elton john
lady di - dead - a few weeks later - elton john
whitney - dead - at the same time - elton john

Not the same song this time - but maybe this depends on the different hair colour.

Keith said the right things about elton john and lady di a few years ago.

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"I wish people stopped the forced caring." Why do you assume it is forced, Brian Walker? Not my part, anyway. I really liked her even if she clearly had problems from early on. If you don't like the artist - don't post here. No one is forcing you to care!

OK..I guess you life is devasted by the death of some women who really doesn't do music anymore. I guess someone who had some hits 20 years ago is really going to be missed by the world. Give me a break.

Well, I guess she was important enough for you to continue posting on a thread about her death. If she's so irrelevant you might want to stop spending time talking about her.

So you are saying she was still relevant last week?



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Right on stupidguy2. A heartbeat is a heartbeat--any way you look at it.

I don't think people realize just where this "indifference" really stems from. I put the blame squarely on our media: TV and the internet. It's gotten so bad now that death has become this place that we send our troubled celebrities when we're just tried of reading/hearing about them on the news. People start to wish death on them just to get them out of their hair: "Thank God you're dead. Now I don't have to hear about you anymore." I suspect most people aren't aware of this but they'd rather go with the more accessible (but flawed) "you don't even know her" or "she was going to die any day now anyway" logic.

When I first started surfing the net, more than 15 years ago, I was always amazed at some of the comments posted about certain people, things.
So I think the internet has just made their callousness accepted, or has given it a forum. I have a friend who is this cynical and whenever someone famous dies -
'I'm so sick of hearing about so-and-so - they were'nt that great..'
Its the inevitable response and I think it must be just part of some people's nature to be that dismissive or unmoved, unless its somebody they care about.
The notion that you can't feel something over a famous person's death or you can only feel bad for someones whose musical style you like, is shallow.
Houston's trajectory is, I think, what makes people feel sadness because we all watched it, Just like we may have watched it with people we know personally....that makes it relatable and human - to care about someone you didn't know.

I get tired of the fact that when ever someone famous dies people who didn't know the person have to go out of their way to make it seem like they are really effected by the death. WH has done nothig in years. I am sure most on this board have never thought much of her music. But read the posts. Its like posters feel like they have to say something positive and give their feelings. Rubbish. Hey guys..Neither WH or her family are reading this board. And God help anyone who says they didn't live her music. Its like you slapped another poster in the mouth.


All we are missing from WH dying is articles in scandel magazines about her drug use. Thats it. Just like all we missed from Lennon dying is some average later day pop songs. All we mised from Elvis dying was a fat way past his prime singer, singing old songs. Why is there the need to act like the world is going to miss a person everytime they die. Its very annoying.

Its a shame for her family, and that a life ended short, but it doesn't effect one person on IORR. I wish people stopped the forced caring, and stop feeling the need to build WH up just because she died.

bri...did someone take a piss in your cheerios this morning?

Posting the obvious doesn't exactly mean someone took a piss in my cherios. Just call sillyness and hype when I see it.

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[all we missed from Lennon dying is some average later day pop songs.

You're walkin on thin ice brainwalker. Please don't use "we" in your posts because you don't speak for me and probably not the majority of folks here.

I try to take people at face value and would suggest you do the same. If someone feels bad for whatever reason who are you to tell them it is trivial? You can't argure with peoples feelings bro, I'm surprised your wife or girlfriend hasn't taught you that yet. That statement on Lennon pisses me off, I suggest you speak for yourself. peace

Oh I see. Then from 1975-80 Lennon was doing more then just coming up with pop tunes once in a great while. Really?

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"I wish people stopped the forced caring." Why do you assume it is forced, Brian Walker? Not my part, anyway. I really liked her even if she clearly had problems from early on. If you don't like the artist - don't post here. No one is forcing you to care!

OK..I guess you life is devasted by the death of some women who really doesn't do music anymore. I guess someone who had some hits 20 years ago is really going to be missed by the world. Give me a break.

Well, I guess she was important enough for you to continue posting on a thread about her death. If she's so irrelevant you might want to stop spending time talking about her.

I have not been posting much at all about her death. I have been posting about the constant need to try and build up any famous person who dies. For some very strange reason.

brianwalker, how will you react when Keith or Mick die?

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I have not been posting much at all about her death. I have been posting about the constant need to try and build up any famous person who dies. For some very strange reason.

I'd say trying to tear down a famous person who died is just as strange as building them up.

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I have not been posting much at all about her death. I have been posting about the constant need to try and build up any famous person who dies. For some very strange reason.

I'd say trying to tear down a famous person who died is just as strange as building them up.

Who is trying to tear her down? I said its sad for her and her family. She had a great voice years ago, and she was a popular singer years ago. What I just posted is the way it is. Not sure why anyone would say thats tearing her down.

I dont feel the need to Exaggerate her just because she died. I don't feel the need to say things about her that I wouldn't have said a week ago. Thats when it starts to get silly and when eyes start to roll.

Brainwalker, you are making it very obvious that you know little about great talent or artistry generally. Whether it's Whitney Houston, John Lennon or anyone else that gets more attention than you do.

Another Whitney video you say? ...sure, no problem.... how about this one....

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brianwalker, how will you react when Keith or Mick die?

I will roll my eyes at anyone who talks about what great music we are missing out on. I will roll my eyes at anyone who cries or says it feels like a death in the family.

I won't have a strong reaction. I still have their music. IF one of them died in 1971 then it would be a different story. Then you could say this sucks we missed out on a ton of great music and concerts.


I will say its sad for his family and he was truely one of the greatest music stars ever..

Whitney sure had a great smile... she just beamed

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I have not been posting much at all about her death. I have been posting about the constant need to try and build up any famous person who dies. For some very strange reason.

I'd say trying to tear down a famous person who died is just as strange as building them up.

Who is trying to tear her down? I said its sad for her and her family. She had a great voice years ago, and she was a popular singer years ago. What I just posted is the way it is. Not sure why anyone would say thats tearing her down.

I dont feel the need to Exaggerate her just because she died. I don't feel the need to say things about her that I wouldn't have said a week ago. Thats when it starts to get silly and when eyes start to roll.

Well you did say: "All we are missing from WH dying is articles in scandel magazines about her drug use. Thats it."

I'd call that tearing her down.

You also said that YOU are getting tired of the fact that when people die they get all this attention. What does it matter to you, and how does it hurt you what people think? You said her death didn't affect one person on this board, well people talking about her death doesn't affect you. So why the need to whine about it? If you're tired of it, and you don't want to hear about it, you didn't have to open this thread. Of course doing so would rob you of the chance to "tell people how it is", because you're naturally the only person who can do so.

Live and let live dude. If you don't care about Whitney or care that she's dead, that's fine. I personally didn't care all that much for her music, and her death didn't really affect me any more than most stranger's death would. Whenever any celebrity that I grew up with dies (whether I liked them or not) I always find it kind of sad. Hearing about them dying makes me think of growing up, and their death sort of drives home the idea that we're all marching towards the inevitable. But I'm not holding a candlelight vigil for her.

If you're tired of this stuff, you're in for a long life of being annoyed, so buck up and get used to it. This is the world of the 24 hour news cycle, and any celebrity death is going to be big news. Look at all the hooplah over Ann Nicole Smith's death, and she didn't have any discernible talent that I could see, other than having huge knockers.

Bottom line, if you don't care, don't get involved in the conversation. You're not being held hostage in this thread. You purposely clicked on it and joined in because you felt the need to tell people how it really is and how they should feel.

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Right on stupidguy2. A heartbeat is a heartbeat--any way you look at it.

I don't think people realize just where this "indifference" really stems from. I put the blame squarely on our media: TV and the internet. It's gotten so bad now that death has become this place that we send our troubled celebrities when we're just tried of reading/hearing about them on the news. People start to wish death on them just to get them out of their hair: "Thank God you're dead. Now I don't have to hear about you anymore." I suspect most people aren't aware of this but they'd rather go with the more accessible (but flawed) "you don't even know her" or "she was going to die any day now anyway" logic.

When I first started surfing the net, more than 15 years ago, I was always amazed at some of the comments posted about certain people, things.
So I think the internet has just made their callousness accepted, or has given it a forum. I have a friend who is this cynical and whenever someone famous dies -
'I'm so sick of hearing about so-and-so - they were'nt that great..'
Its the inevitable response and I think it must be just part of some people's nature to be that dismissive or unmoved, unless its somebody they care about.
The notion that you can't feel something over a famous person's death or you can only feel bad for someones whose musical style you like, is shallow.
Houston's trajectory is, I think, what makes people feel sadness because we all watched it, Just like we may have watched it with people we know personally....that makes it relatable and human - to care about someone you didn't know.

I get tired of the fact that when ever someone famous dies people who didn't know the person have to go out of their way to make it seem like they are really effected by the death. WH has done nothig in years. I am sure most on this board have never thought much of her music. But read the posts. Its like posters feel like they have to say something positive and give their feelings. Rubbish. Hey guys..Neither WH or her family are reading this board. And God help anyone who says they didn't live her music. Its like you slapped another poster in the mouth.


All we are missing from WH dying is articles in scandel magazines about her drug use. Thats it. Just like all we missed from Lennon dying is some average later day pop songs. All we mised from Elvis dying was a fat way past his prime singer, singing old songs. Why is there the need to act like the world is going to miss a person everytime they die. Its very annoying.

Its a shame for her family, and that a life ended short, but it doesn't effect one person on IORR. I wish people stopped the forced caring, and stop feeling the need to build WH up just because she died.

bri...did someone take a piss in your cheerios this morning?

Posting the obvious doesn't exactly mean someone took a piss in my cherios. Just call sillyness and hype when I see it.

Why would a few people expressing condolences get you all angry? don't post in this thread if you don't like it, but you're showing zero class right now.