I remember seeing this picture once some 25 years ago on the cover of a bootleg of some kind. I suppose it was a 70's era shot, but can't find it anywhere. Did i dream this, or was it a ver rare shot, and an extremely rare bootleg?

Help!

I don't remember Keith wearing whatever a German Mother's Cross is, but I remember Brian wearing what we called a Surfer's Cross in the mid-60s. It was some kind of Nazi medal and my school principal, who spent time in Stalag 17, did not like the trend.

I have a stones book which has a painting of the stones all dressed in nazi uniroms with a very young naked girl. Maybe it's that you are thinking of?



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I remember seeing this picture once some 25 years ago on the cover of a bootleg of some kind. I suppose it was a 70's era shot, but can't find it anywhere. Did i dream this, or was it a ver rare shot, and an extremely rare bootleg?

Help!

At 3:13.





Mathijs

Wow, fast and impressing as usual. Thanks. That's the one. A german mothers cross for women who gave birth to 4 or more children in the third reich. I never belived there was any political statement behind the fact that Keith wore it, perhaps just a usual rock 'n' roll, anti establishment provocation or whatever. Wish i could find that bootleg album as well. Think it was some Keith alone outtakes on it, perhaps toronto stuff.

fron that Lady Jane clip:

could this be the same wermacht M42 jacket Keith wore in Mick and Biancas wedding?



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Didn't Jimmy Page follow this trend circa 1966 when with the Yardbirds?

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holy moly i love this place, thanks. Whats the name of the album?

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Yeah but check also Rattlesnake's edition of Brussels Affair, in the booklet there's a a beautiful pic of Keith with the Nazi Mutters Kreuz.

More Nazi memorabilia into Rock n Roll I'll say!

I remember some right di**head outside of Stade de France in 2007 who refused to talk to me cos I had an Iron Cross ring, despite the fact it has absolutely nothing to do with the stupid Nazi ideology. Anyway, this little kn**head ended up far behind me in the FOS section, God do punish some people immediately.

You're a rag trade girl, You're the queen of porn, You're the easiest lay on the white house lawn!!

so Lemmy is not the only one. Weird as it was not controversial in the 70's. Nowadays you cannot wear something like that.

"we know it's a bit late but we hope you don't mind if we stay"

Didn't they drive around in a Nazi car of some sort?

And then there was the place in France where Exile was made.

It was less of a big deal back then.

Now watchers watch evrything.

Keith was not the only one in the 70's ,
just look at Mick's shirt in the Live in Texas DVD



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Honestman
Keith wa not the only one in the 70's ,
just look at Mick's shirt in the Live in Texas DVD

allthough that shirt says "destroy nazism"

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Big Al
Didn't Jimmy Page follow this trend circa 1966 when with the Yardbirds?

Lots of people did.

* His Majesty, Prince Jones smiled as he moved among the crowd *

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so Lemmy is not the only one. Weird as it was not controversial in the 70's. Nowadays you cannot wear something like that.

Well, the reason this interview was never aired actually was that cross.

Mathijs

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so Lemmy is not the only one. Weird as it was not controversial in the 70's. Nowadays you cannot wear something like that.

Or say Merry Christmas to others.

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Big Al
Didn't Jimmy Page follow this trend circa 1966 when with the Yardbirds?

Yes. He wore I think they call it an Iron Cross when the Yardies were touring the U.S. and people gave him shit about it, understandably.

He went way over the f/ng top with this outfit though, worn on Easter Sunday in 1977:


Alice Cooper said a lot of rock stars in the 70's liked the Nazi iconography and outfits, but it was for shock value not because they identified with the ideology.

From WIKIPEDIA

...Nazi chic refers to the approving use of Nazi-era style, imagery, and paraphernalia in clothing and popular culture, especially when used for taboo breaking or shock value rather than out of genuine nazist sympathies.

Its use began in the mid-seventies with the emergence of the punk movement in London : the Sex Pistols' first television appearance occurred with a person of their entourage wearing a swastika.
Nazi chic was later used in the fashion industry in various occasions.

In the 1970s punk subculture, several items of clothing designed to shock and offend The Establishment became popular. Among these punk fashion items was a T-shirt displaying a Swastika, an upside-down crucifix and the word DESTROY– which was worn by Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols, seen in the video for "Pretty Vacant". Rotten wore the swastika another time with a gesture that looked like a Nazi salute.
In 1976, Siouxsie Sioux of Siouxsie and the Banshees was also known to wear a Swastika armband with fetish S and M clothing, including fishnets and a whip. These musicians are commonly thought to have worn such clothing for shock value directed towards the British WWII generation rather than being genuinely associated with any National Socialist or fascist ideologies, and those with such interests likely became part of the Nazi punk or white power skinhead subcultures.

In 1984, two T-shirt designs featuring Adolf Hitler became popular. The more famous of the two was the "Adolf Hitler European Tour" design, which featured a picture of Hitler against the backdrop of a map of Europe, with conquered territories shaded and tour dates ...

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Prince Harry was criticized for wearing a costume with a swastika armband causing considerable embarrassment to his family. He later issued a public statement apologizing for his actions, but his lack of apology in person angered some groups. Harry's impromptu costume resembled the Afrika Corps, rather than more political units such as the SS.

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Chris Farlowe is a collector of Nazi/SS items....



............ Chris Farlowe UNCUT 2009

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Good lord guv'nah. He seemed like such a nice lad too.

Do you think it's something to do with these British rock stars being little and helpless when the Germans were bombing the hell out of their country ... maybe it's how they deal with fears and deprivation from their childhood or something.

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Good lord guv'nah. He seemed like such a nice lad too.

He still is I'm sure. Collecting Nazi memorabilia does not make one a Nazi

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Do you think it's something to do with these British rock stars being little and helpless when the Germans were bombing the hell out of their country ... maybe it's how they deal with fears and deprivation from their childhood or something.

Probably not. My mum and dad didn't feel that way...

aww look at Mick trying to be a punk. how cute.
maybe he's wearing that shirt because he's anti-buddhism/hinduism.

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aww look at Mick trying to be a punk. how cute.
maybe he's wearing that shirt because he's anti-buddhism/hinduism.

The swastika used in Hinduism is not tilted and in Shinto is a reverse image of one used by the Nazis. Both predate the Nazi's version by a thousand years or so.



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Chris Farlowe is a collector of Nazi/SS items....



............ Chris Farlowe UNCUT 2009

Thanks Rockman...that was a startling read.

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Jake and Ellwood hating on Illinois Nazis

I was at an outdoor flea market in Vienna, Austria a few years ago and saw just such a German cross for sale. But its swastika was covered with white tape. I asked the seller, Why the white tape? He said, "It's illegal to display a swastika in Austria." (No, I didn't buy it.)