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Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: chelskeith ()
Date: September 9, 2011 17:40

These guys dont get together for board meetings, or to just hang like they did in the 60s.

They get together to discuss Rolling Stones business, and from my guess the only business to discuss thats worthy of a joint meeting is a tour.

They dont make enough off making new music without a tour to discuss, and they dont seem to have a big interest in making new music unless they fell they have to, or one or more members feels its important, and we know who those member(s) are.

The only way they'll discuss a tour is if a promoter is ponying up the money and that isnt hapenning for 10 dates, IMO. To get these guys on the road, its a huge deal, think of the entourage they travel with, the private chefs, planes and trucks, staging, Ritz Carlton bills for whole floors, etc.

At this stage it takes passion AND money to make something happen, and I'm guessing money means several million for Mick and Keith, and I'm sure they cut Charlie in nicely and Ronnie as a partner must get something as well thats no small amount.

So, sounds like to me they had an offer to consider, and in my opinion between Keith's passion to go on the road, Ronnie's need for $ and his passion, and mick's needs, whatever they may be, they can once again convince Charlie to have a go and if Cohl or whomever came up with the dough, they'll have anotehr go at it, on a large scale, maybe not what we've seen, but enough to get the wheels of that machine in motion rolling enough to pay all those bills I mentioned.

Fingers crossed.

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: September 9, 2011 17:45

Quote
chelskeith
These guys dont get together for board meetings, or to just hang like they did in the 60s.

They get together to discuss Rolling Stones business, and from my guess the only business to discuss thats worthy of a joint meeting is a tour.

They dont make enough off making new music without a tour to discuss, and they dont seem to have a big interest in making new music unless they fell they have to, or one or more members feels its important, and we know who those member(s) are.

The only way they'll discuss a tour is if a promoter is ponying up the money and that isnt hapenning for 10 dates, IMO. To get these guys on the road, its a huge deal, think of the entourage they travel with, the private chefs, planes and trucks, staging, Ritz Carlton bills for whole floors, etc.

At this stage it takes passion AND money to make something happen, and I'm guessing money means several million for Mick and Keith, and I'm sure they cut Charlie in nicely and Ronnie as a partner must get something as well thats no small amount.

So, sounds like to me they had an offer to consider, and in my opinion between Keith's passion to go on the road, Ronnie's need for $ and his passion, and mick's needs, whatever they may be, they can once again convince Charlie to have a go and if Cohl or whomever came up with the dough, they'll have anotehr go at it, on a large scale, maybe not what we've seen, but enough to get the wheels of that machine in motion rolling enough to pay all those bills I mentioned.

Fingers crossed.

Beautiful analysis

Re: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: uhbuhgullayew ()
Date: September 9, 2011 17:49

Quote
Gazza
Mick has 'tour hair' !

Thats the most significant 'sign' you need!



This isn't considered to be "tour hair"?

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 9, 2011 18:12

Quote
chelskeith
These guys dont get together for board meetings, or to just hang like they did in the 60s.

They get together to discuss Rolling Stones business, and from my guess the only business to discuss thats worthy of a joint meeting is a tour.

The only way they'll discuss a tour is if a promoter is ponying up the money and that isnt hapenning for 10 dates, IMO. To get these guys on the road, its a huge deal, think of the entourage they travel with, the private chefs, planes and trucks, staging, Ritz Carlton bills for whole floors, etc.

So, sounds like to me they had an offer to consider, and in my opinion between Keith's passion to go on the road, Ronnie's need for $ and his passion, and mick's needs, whatever they may be, they can once again convince Charlie to have a go and if Cohl or whomever came up with the dough, they'll have anotehr go at it, on a large scale, maybe not what we've seen, but enough to get the wheels of that machine in motion rolling enough to pay all those bills I mentioned.

Fingers crossed.

There's a lot in your train of logic that we can get on board with, C, but not
ride as far as you.

Without getting, for once, too speculative, we think both Time and SuperHeavy
weigh too heavily against the kind of major statement from the Stones upon
the occasion of their 50th that you still and we once eagerly anticipated.

So if the following are the two big questions:

Is SuperHeavy just a way of maximizing publicity for the Stones 50th?

Or is the Stones 50th just a way of maximizing publicity for Mick's new
venture SuperHeavy?

We think the answer is both.

For you Stones partisans: this SuperHeavy thing is maximizing what is
possible with the Stones, as a band, on the world stage, at this time.
Which is not a giant tour. Not just because of the band's condition, but
as much because of the world's condition.

For you SuperHeavy enthusiasts: Fret not. The Stones 50th will only serve
to bring your band more attention.

And for you, like us, excited about both: Every lil ting Irie!

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Date: September 9, 2011 18:19

Rev, why do you now speak using the Royal "we?" I think I liked it better when you let your inner Rastafarian do the talking. I miss Jar-Jar.

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: September 9, 2011 18:33

Quote
WilliamPatrickMaynard
Rev, why do you now speak using the Royal "we?" I think I liked it better when you let your inner Rastafarian do the talking. I miss Jar-Jar.

Rocky, what are you doing?! Rev, don't listen to him -let Jar-Jar rest in peace

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: September 9, 2011 18:41

Quote
nocomment
Quote
chelskeith
These guys dont get together for board meetings, or to just hang like they did in the 60s.

They get together to discuss Rolling Stones business, and from my guess the only business to discuss thats worthy of a joint meeting is a tour.

The only way they'll discuss a tour is if a promoter is ponying up the money and that isnt hapenning for 10 dates, IMO. To get these guys on the road, its a huge deal, think of the entourage they travel with, the private chefs, planes and trucks, staging, Ritz Carlton bills for whole floors, etc.

So, sounds like to me they had an offer to consider, and in my opinion between Keith's passion to go on the road, Ronnie's need for $ and his passion, and mick's needs, whatever they may be, they can once again convince Charlie to have a go and if Cohl or whomever came up with the dough, they'll have anotehr go at it, on a large scale, maybe not what we've seen, but enough to get the wheels of that machine in motion rolling enough to pay all those bills I mentioned.

Fingers crossed.

.

So if the following are the two big questions:

Is SuperHeavy just a way of maximizing publicity for the Stones 50th?

Or is the Stones 50th just a way of maximizing publicity for Mick's new
venture SuperHeavy?

We think the answer is both.

!

Agree with you, nocomment.
chelskeith - passion for KR and Ronnie and "mick's needs, whatever they may be" - it's so boring, really thumbs down

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 9, 2011 18:55

Quote
WilliamPatrickMaynard
why do you now speak using the Royal "we?"

nothing royal about this "we" at all. nothing royal
about multiple personality disorder. at least not
in a this here time. in a this here time, we are
just so happy to mostly shut up and let The Rolling
Stones and SuperHeavy and maybe even the Winos do
the talking. we so much prefer their voices to our own.
later on some time, maybe, if all 3 bands are on hiatus,
and everybody getting bored and restless, maybe then we
let a thousand flowers bloom again, maybe then we let
all the clowns loose, but for the foreseeable future,
our one and only desire is to be your own personal
fox news babes. Fair and balanced.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-09-09 18:56 by nocomment.

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: chelskeith ()
Date: September 9, 2011 18:55

SuperHeavy is the same thing as Mick's solo recordings and his foray's into film, a way to try his creative side.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2013-02-20 05:33 by chelskeith.

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: Blue ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:06

Okay! What would make this the MOST interesting IMO is if somehow they could get Mick T and Bill to join in....this cannot be impossible, there must be some way to convince them, especially if this is "The Last Time" tour. This would be really be sensational if somehow they could make it happen.

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:10

If Bill's going to 'join in', then forget about any shows outside of Northern Europe...

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:15

Quote
chelskeith
There are so many possibilities...

Agreed, but there is one certainty (and everybody should reflect upon it):

The better SuperHeavy does, the better the Stones 50th does.

Simple as that.

Re: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:23

Quote
Rolling Hansie
Is this for real ? Looking at the pictures they are leaving through different doors. Are they really leaving the same office ?

Hansie, hey mate, don't ya just love the drama! This is what I live for! smoking smiley

Re: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:25

Quote
tatters
And Keith's had a facial.

If you look closely you will see that they all had manicures!

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: sweetcharmedlife ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:26

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nocomment
Quote
chelskeith
There are so many possibilities...

Agreed, but there is one certainty (and everybody should reflect upon it):

The better SuperHeavy does, the better the Stones 50th does.

Simple as that.
Really? Why? I would think the better the Some Girls remaster does the better the Stones 50th does. Very few Stones fans are interested in Super Heavy. Mick's even on record as saying it was a one time thing. Not his future path.

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: TooTough ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:27

Quote
Gazza
If Bill's going to 'join in', then forget about any shows outside of Northern Europe...

A tour of Northern Europe would be fine (and enough for me).


47 shows...and counting...Hyde Park - July 6 & 13

Re: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:27

Quote
Gazza
Mick has 'tour hair' !

Thats the most significant 'sign' you need!

Looks like "tour hair" to me!

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: Blue ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:30

Quote
Gazza
If Bill's going to 'join in', then forget about any shows outside of Northern Europe...


Here's hoping he could get up the courage to fly for the sake of history. Bill LOVES history.

Re: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:30

Quote
Gazza
Quote
tatters
And Keith's had a facial.

I was hoping to read that Mick and Keith had settled their differences, but I didnt think Mick would go to THAT extreme!

They can settle their differences in the studio working on a top flight album!

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:35

Quote
Sam Spade
Quote
Gazza
Quote
Sam Spade
What are the odds of one photographer catching them as they leave the building? It's not like the building is the Dakota in NYC where Lennon lived. It seems to me someone in the Stones camp gave the photographer advance notice the band would be at that location. Perhaps it was a photographer who works in the Stones organization.

Are there any other published photos of them entering or leaving past band meetings?

Mick and Ronnie have a very high profile when it comes to attracting the attention of paparazzi photographers. If theyre going to be out in public in London there's a good chance they'll be followed. Besides, someone even posted here the other day that he'd heard indirectly from Ronnie that a band meeting was imminent, so its hardly surprising that the press became aware of it.

Yes, I read that posting Gazza but the location wasn't mentioned meaning someone had to call or was called by the Stones Organization to give the exact location of the meeting.

Then who exactly "Tipped" this photographer who happened to take a picture of Mick walking some London street?



Papparazi actually STALK their prey. They follow them everywhere. Someone as a huge profile as Mick Jagger...it's probably a safe bet that he unfortunately has permanent followers everywhere he goes. The story is about them all being together leaving a building at once. There's no need for 20 other pictures showing them going in and other angles of them walking out. If they were tipped, it no doubt would have been from someone pretty low in the ranks who happened to hear from someone else that they were coming.

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:39

Quote
ineedadrink
as always, the media is trying to make a mountain out of an ant hill. let's not get ahead of ourselves or get too excited. a meeting doesn't necessarily mean they're going to tour. maybe they agreed not to tour? maybe they discussed the dissolution of the band. clearly there isn't much to this story if the author has to fill up space by discussing what they were wearing. sure it's good that they got together but we have no idea what they talked about. maybe they weren't even in the same room together. we just don't know.

How many times do I have to say it? They had one eye on 2012 and their 50th anniversary since they finished the last tour in 2007! It'a as simple as that. Of course it still isn't a done deal until they actually show up on stage together for the first concert.

Re: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:40

Quote
Rockman

Move over U2!

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:41

Quote
sweetcharmedlife
Quote
nocomment
There is one certainty (and everybody should reflect upon it):

The better SuperHeavy does, the better the Stones 50th does.

Simple as that.

Really? Why?

Very few Stones fans are interested in Super Heavy.

Mick's even on record as saying it was a one time thing. Not his future path.

Stones fans, in the sense you mean it, that is, Some Girls Deluxe fans,
are not one-tenth of what is needed to support even a limited tour.
Stones audiences have always been and will always be mostly casuals and tourists
and newbies, and SuperHeavy's success would bring in many more of each.

Mick's quote about the future of SuperHeavy is much more cagey than
your version. He stated that his closest current business partner,
both musically and extra-musically, the one that got himself tatooed
with the new brand, is already talking about another album but that
he, Mick, is not yet persuaded.

Which is exactly what somebody would say who wanted to maximize the
success of both his bands. In fact, every Mick quote these days can
and should be parsed along exactly these lines.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-09-09 19:43 by nocomment.

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:47

Quote
sweetcharmedlife
Quote
nocomment
Quote
chelskeith
There are so many possibilities...

Agreed, but there is one certainty (and everybody should reflect upon it):

The better SuperHeavy does, the better the Stones 50th does.

Simple as that.
Really? Why? I would think the better the Some Girls remaster does the better the Stones 50th does. Very few Stones fans are interested in Super Heavy. Mick's even on record as saying it was a one time thing. Not his future path.

SuperHeavy can add new fans to the Stones,younger ones. Besides I can't see how SH is keeping the Some Girls remaster from selling well. In addition to that SH success maight make Jagger more confident to deal with Richards and media after all the ridicule coming from the book.
Jagger who is mocked about is not such a good frontman for the Stones 50th

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: thewatchman ()
Date: September 9, 2011 19:53

Quote
marvpeck
They've probably been reading what's going on here
and decided to give everybody something to post about.

smoking smiley

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: crawdaddy ()
Date: September 9, 2011 20:02

The photographer who took those 4 piccys which appeared in The Mail probably took many,many pics of the lads coming out and obviously used the best 4. The Stones wanted to avoid having any shot of them with any other Stone.Had their own reasons for that,I guess.It was all contrived I reckon'and the general paparazzi didn't know about this meeting.Noticed a guy taking pics by Ronnies car ,but without witnesses to the event we do not know of any more cameramen there.If there had been,I'm sure differant shots,angles would have appeared in the press every where. Anyway,Mick got his book signed by Keith and had a face to face confrontation over bits he didn't like. Now the waiting starts but there will be a decent outcome I am sure. winking smiley

Ladies & Gentlemen.................The Rolling Stones.
Can you hear in the back?.........Can you hear in the back at all?.......Can you hear anything?

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: Peterh ()
Date: September 9, 2011 20:46

since the new music industry has discovered that Swagger rhymes with Jagger, Jagger is hot... x songs with Jagger... appearance with old clips even in the Maroon 5 hit single.. continues to Superheavy MW which gets quite some airplay... it is from a business pov an excellent time to exploit more Stones related activities.. SG reissue, DVD... the anticipation for the 50y tour.. it's all about the buzz.. which is good..

if it is really on, whe should hear about it within a month or so.. (in principle a winter (indoor) start is logistically still possible..)

One problem though... I just cut off my tour hair... I'll start saving again..

Re: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: uhbuhgullayew ()
Date: September 9, 2011 21:05

Quote
stonescrow
Quote
Rockman

Move over U2!

Nah, they don't have to move, just run them over!

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Date: September 9, 2011 21:52

Quote
nocomment
nothing royal about this "we" at all. nothing royal
about multiple personality disorder. at least not
in a this here time. in a this here time, we are
just so happy to mostly shut up and let The Rolling
Stones and SuperHeavy and maybe even the Winos do
the talking. we so much prefer their voices to our own.
later on some time, maybe, if all 3 bands are on hiatus,
and everybody getting bored and restless, maybe then we
let a thousand flowers bloom again, maybe then we let
all the clowns loose, but for the foreseeable future,
our one and only desire is to be your own personal
fox news babes. Fair and balanced.

That's the Rev I fondly remember. Nice to have you back. Me-sa sorry, Proud Mary, but I always got a kick out of Jar-Jar.

Re: Daily Mail, Sep 8: A tour in the pipeline? Rolling Stones make rare appearance together
Posted by: sweetcharmedlife ()
Date: September 9, 2011 21:57

Quote
WilliamPatrickMaynard
Quote
nocomment
nothing royal about this "we" at all. nothing royal
about multiple personality disorder. at least not
in a this here time. in a this here time, we are
just so happy to mostly shut up and let The Rolling
Stones and SuperHeavy and maybe even the Winos do
the talking. we so much prefer their voices to our own.
later on some time, maybe, if all 3 bands are on hiatus,
and everybody getting bored and restless, maybe then we
let a thousand flowers bloom again, maybe then we let
all the clowns loose, but for the foreseeable future,
our one and only desire is to be your own personal
fox news babes. Fair and balanced.

That's the Rev I fondly remember. Nice to have you back. Me-sa sorry, Proud Mary, but I always got a kick out of Jar-Jar.

Ughhhh.

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