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Congratulations to the Superheavy thread! More than 60 000 views and soon 40 pages of posting. Judging by the interest on this site this Superheavy project must be a smash hit! Maybe even Jagger will recognize that soon?

US have never been in cultural avantguard in any field - art, cinema, literature and as for music even Jazz and blues received recognition first in Europe and only after that became popular in US.

Perhaps it's the other way around. Americans are just smart enough to know crap when they hear it....and Super heavy is crap.

I think SH is fine - it's new and funny and inspiring. You call it "crap" - americans have never been known for their good maners

Horse or lion kind of mane?

Jagger is Leo, the Lion is also on the SH cover so I'd assume that the lion's mane is the flavor of the month

man oh man do we have more sympathy for keith richards now than
we had a few weeks ago!

rolling stones fans, good news! you can have him, we don't want him!

Weekly Chart Notes: Mick Jagger,

[www.billboard.com]

YouTube Presents: Superheavy

Anthony Fantano puts your questions to Mick Jagger's new band 'Superheavy'

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YouTube Presents: Superheavy

Anthony Fantano puts your questions to Mick Jagger's new band 'Superheavy'

best interview so far

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man oh man do we have more sympathy for keith richards now than
we had a few weeks ago!

rolling stones fans, good news! you can have him, we don't want him!

You seem a nasty person(s)

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You seem a nasty person(s)

we not seeing straight we are so furious with jagger. so hurt.
we feel baited and switched. we feel mick not doing shows now,
like everybody but him in superheavy wants, is lethal for the
group. looks like years of effort from especially dave is being
ripped off to sell dallas 78 and rolling stones skis. a precious
moment in time bringing together joss's perfection with damian's
forwardness and AR's purity, right when we need it, is being
squandered, maybe forever, just to keep frontman jagger's star in
temporary ascendency. we r glad mick learned his emotional lesson before
he made his biggest mistake with l'wren. all we can hope is that by some
miracle he learns his musical lesson before superheavy slips away.

that's why the best hope we see is dumping jagger. fortunately, unlike with
the stones, he is the least essential element. jagger only met AR and
damian through this project. Dave Stewart has known them for years.

Dave's got the old white bluesman base covered, especially with his
close pal joss. jagger is obviously still a great showman, and great
media magnet, but musically he's dispensable. musically he's more a
distraction than an asset. frankly we'll miss his guitar in superheavy,
but dave knows shitloads of great sympatico guitarists.

lots of new bands, including the rolling stones, shifted lineups at the
beginning until they got it right. mick is a musical and personality
mismatch for this group, even if they themselves don't realize it yet.
we want lots more superheavy, and so seemingly do all the members except
mick. so, sadly, time to let him go and move on.

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YouTube Presents: Superheavy

Anthony Fantano puts your questions to Mick Jagger's new band 'Superheavy'

best interview so far

Yes...certainly that I've seen.

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You seem a nasty person(s)

we not seeing straight we are so furious with jagger. so hurt.
we feel baited and switched. we feel mick not doing shows now,
like everybody but him in superheavy wants, is lethal for the
group. looks like years of effort from especially dave is being
ripped off to sell dallas 78 and rolling stones skis. a precious
moment in time bringing together joss's perfection with damian's
forwardness and AR's purity, right when we need it, is being
squandered, maybe forever, just to keep frontman jagger's star in
temporary ascendency. we r glad mick learned his emotional lesson before
he made his biggest mistake with l'wren. all we can hope is that by some
miracle he learns his musical lesson before superheavy slips away.
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what are you talking about? Mick himself said that he can imagine to do shows, but he does not want a tour, because there is not enough material to fill 2 hours.

I think it's an educated guess that there will be some shows or a mini tour. Why do onehundred inteviews, watch the sales drop and then say goodbye? The natural thing would be to end the project with a couple of shows. Mick probably needs it too to get some practise before next year's 50-year jubilee bonanza.

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You seem a nasty person(s)

we not seeing straight we are so furious with jagger. so hurt.
we feel baited and switched. we feel mick not doing shows now,
like everybody but him in superheavy wants, is lethal for the
group. looks like years of effort from especially dave is being
ripped off to sell dallas 78 and rolling stones skis. a precious
moment in time bringing together joss's perfection with damian's
forwardness and AR's purity, right when we need it, is being
squandered, maybe forever, just to keep frontman jagger's star in
temporary ascendency. we r glad mick learned his emotional lesson before
he made his biggest mistake with l'wren. all we can hope is that by some
miracle he learns his musical lesson before superheavy slips away.
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what are you talking about? Mick himself said that he can imagine to do shows, but he does not want a tour, because there is not enough material to fill 2 hours.

Yes, I remember Mick saying that also. I could see them doing at least a few shows for sure.

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what are you talking about? Mick himself said that he can imagine to do shows, but he does not want a tour, because there is not enough material to fill 2 hours.

1) as previously mentioned, the members of this band bring loads of their
own killer material to the party, much of which could be done superheavy-
style to the delight of audiences everywhere.

2) what is this shit from jagger, "oh i'll only tour if we're really popular"?!?
new bands playing a new kind of music go out and play it, to convince people and
build an audience.

3) not enough new material? okay, then get in the friggin studio and make more.

4) warning (for dave joss damian and AR): watch out for him agreeing to a few
token shows, and then ripping off THAT publicity too for stones purposes.

5) we hope keith has a great new band and goes on tour with it, and superheavy
dumps jagger and also goes on tour. then mick will have to go on the dianne
sawyer show and talk about his abs to stay in the public eye.

6) and nocomment can leave IORR and find a Jagger-free SuperHeavy board or else just start an OT thread.

Noncomment stays! He is very entertaining and one of few who actually can write on this forum.

Stoneage: Stop this before it gets worse. Agree to disagree and call it a day. Otherwise this will end with someone being banned. Which is, always, quite unnecessary.

Sure, MKC! If you promise to stop your clash with some girls (I can't remember their names...).

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Sure, MKC! If you promise to stop your clash with some girls (I can't remember their names...).

you mean those people who get paid to post? [getpaidforum.com] ,[www.payperpostforum.com] if you can show me where I was out of line, I might address it.

Again, I am more than willing to promise, and state for the record, that I am not paid or compensated in any way for posting anything on the this board. I am only here to have fun and share information.... but I know there are plenty of web sites that want to sign people up to get paid to post, like [www.paidforumposting.com] or do your own search "paid to post"



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You actually can get paid to post here? I should have been informed about this from the beginning!

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You actually can get paid to post here? I should have been informed about this from the beginning!

of course you can... see the links or do a search...

...But be careful about going over to the dark side, you may not want to put your opinion up for sale.... because once you do, you can not deny that you have.

I never have, and I never will, get paid to post opinions, but I have abandoned certain forums when it became obvious that they were over run by that paid to post BS.



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Which opinions pays the most? Is it pro-Keith or pro-Mick opinions? Who pays for them?

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Which opinions pays the most? Is it pro-Keith or pro-Mick opinions? Who pays for them?

[www.paidforumposting.com]

"What to expect"
""If you’ve never used a content creation service before, you may be wondering just how it works.

When you place your order with us, you can make clear exactly what you want from us. In fact, more information is always better as this helps to prevent confusion and errors from arising.

Once an order is placed with us, payment is first verified. The job is then listed for writers to see, with the details that are given by you. Forum posting jobs run similarly to blog commenting and third party posting, but article jobs are a little different.

Forum jobs are divided up into spots, each of which is a share of the total number of posts that your job requires. Writers view the listed jobs and then take a spot on them depending on whether they have the time, and feel that they can cope with the subject matter of the forum. Our writers are not experts in any given field. If you wish specific things to be included in posts, it can be helpful if you provide references for our writers, to enable them to research the topic for you more thoroughly.

You may also wish to have our writers avoid a particular subject or terms, or to heavily discuss a particular subject, using certain terms. This can be noted when you order, in the ‘special requests’ section of the order form. For third party posting jobs we also need you to provide the list of forums that you wish posted to.

Once a writer has taken a spot on your job they must visit your forum and register a user account. They will make their first post there as soon as their account is activated and ready to go. Forum posts must all be at least 25 words long. More importantly they will be informative posts, rather than simple “I agree”, type statements, and they will all be unique. Plagiarism is a serious offense within our company, and will result in a writer being dismissed.

Article jobs run a little differently. You as the client decide what subjects you want articles on, by either giving a general subject or giving the title of article that you want. Writers from our article writing team will claim an article spot, and begin researching it. They will turn in the article at any point up until the due date, once they have written it, proof read it for errors and for readability, and made sure that it is formatted correctly.

There are certain points that your job will reach that will lead to an update being made in your support ticket. This happens when the job is listed for writers to begin, once the job is filled, once it reaches the half way completed point and when it is finished altogether. If you have any questions along the way however, you can address these to the project manager.

We work hard to make sure that your job runs smoothly, and that above all you get the highest quality and best value service possible.""

Since I learned about this paid to post business, sometimes when I see something that looks strange (or looks like over-hyping by one person, while they dont post about much else), I might simply ask someone if they are paid to post, or if they will deny that they are paid to post. That does not seem like a rude question (feel free to ask me), I would just like to know if the forum I am reading (and people who post on them) are real people or advertisements. As long as they are "out in the open" and honest, then I have no problem with ads.

I am trusting, if a person says they dont get paid to post, then I believe them... enough said.



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I am trusting, if a person says they dont get paid to post, then I believe them... enough said.

1) we are not trusting. we don't believe you. we think you are paid to
disrupt any thread that is not going the way your employers want it to go,
with the same crap over and over.

2) we freely admit that we are a paid-to-post writing team located in
mumbai. and such brilliance does not come cheap. seven chickpeas per word,
a half kilo of rice per illustration, doled out weekly from the back of
ar rahman's limousine.

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"we freely admit that we are a paid-to-post writing team located in
mumbai. and such brilliance does not come cheap. seven chickpeas per word,
a half kilo of rice per illustration, doled out weekly from the back of
ar rahman's limousine.""


cool, thanks for letting us know.

max, the only point you are making is that everybody should exercise judgement
and not believe everything they read on the internet...

wow, welcome to 1996, genius.

and the part about "not believing everything you read", welcome to 1496.

judge judy: mr. kansas city, we don't know if you are a paid agitator or simply
a solipsistic nitwit, and frankly we don't care, because you are wasting the
court's time. quit it already with the accusations and get a life.

no comment: thank you, your honor, and here, max, is what in this context
"get a life" means. stop posting about other posters and post about music you
care about one way or the other.

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max, the only point you are making is that everybody should exercise judgement
and not believe everything they read on the internet...

wow, welcome to 1996, genius.

and the part about "not believing everything you read", welcome to 1496.

judge judy: mr. kansas city, we don't know if you are a paid agitator or simply
a solipsistic nitwit, and frankly we don't care, because you are wasting the
court's time. quit it already with the accusations and get a life.

no comment: thank you, your honor, and here, max, is what in this context
"get a life" means. stop posting about other posters and post about music you
care about one way or the other.

"mr 3 month poster" does an entire post about another poster, and then advises dont post about other posters... uh ok.

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"mr 3 month poster" does an entire post about another poster, and then advises dont post about other posters... uh ok.

not long ago, on another stones message board, somebody posted an elaborate
fantasy about the Stones having their own personal psychiatrix, codenamed SHE
(sort of like Metallica having their own shrink in "some kind of monster" )
and how part of SHE's job was to post under various guises on Stones sites to
help Stones fans deal with things, particularly during this very late stage of
the Stones career (even Keith now talks about only "one last bash" ).

Do we personally believe this fantasy?

Hmmmmm. We really don't see how that's relevant. Unless we volunteer our
opinion.

uh, oh, okay, okay, if you're gonna twist our arms... here's our opinion:

no comment.

To get a view from Bollywood you can read here:

SuperHeavy Music Review

By Rumnique Nannar

In sheer talent and stature, the supergroup SuperHeavy consisting of Mick Jagger, Joss Stone, AR Rahman, Dave Stewart (Eurhythmics) and Damian Marley matches the colossal Traveling Wilburys containing rock gods George Harrison, Tom Petty, Roy Orbison, Bob Dylan, and Jeff Lynne. However, supergroups have usually been beset with ego clashes and conflicting music styles especially the group Cream with Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker, and Jack Bruce each vying for the top spot during their fiery years together.

Yet SuperHeavy is definitely one of the most exciting and fresh pairings of artists. The group was the brainchild of Dave Stewart, who was listening to four different types of music at one time and listening to how the styles merged. Fans looking forward to AR Rahman’s contribution may be a bit disappointed as he features on 10 of the 16 tracks, but Rahman’s great technical finesse on all his albums is apparent throughout. The album certainly sounds like an ultra-fun jam session between very diverse artists getting to know each other’s’ sound and working together into a noisy musical gumbo!

The first track truly hits the ground running, SuperHeavy, is such a good opening track to showcase the singers and their different musical backgrounds. It starts with an almost Celtic sounding guitar riff by Dave Stewart, and he soon grunges it up against Rahman’s bongo drums. Then Damian Marley trades his reggae toasting and vocals like a basketball between Mick Jagger and Joss Stone and it keeps the song so danceable despite all the intermingling vocals. Special mention to Joss Stone who matches the men step by step and belts her lyrics out like a true R&B diva. Rahman also gets to mix in his crooning during a slowed down interlude and he weaves a bit of dhol in there, which is a perfect way to end the song, and especially next to Stewart’s pulsating riff.

We switch gears into reggae mode in Unbelievable, where Mick Jagger takes over from Damian Marley and he seems completely at home doing some toasting and brings the typical Mick squawk. The chorus of song is very catchy, and Joss Stone purrs her lines out like an item girl, which gives the song a better sound as the men croon and beseech a gorgeous girl. The reggae sound goes really well with Rahman’s keyboard, and the he gets his own moment in the song to sing an ‘Oh Rabba’ bit and all the sing a saregama bit too, which sounds good too. In Rahman’s musical solo, Jagger sings the bridge and their voices are fabulous together. This song is definitely a cultural exchange, which fits in with their globalization message throughout the album. Definitely, the Indian orchestra sound along with Marley toasting right near the end brings the song to a great harmonic close.

The song that has been rocking the charts so far, Miracle Worker, is definitely a perfect song to unleash on the public with each singer given a moment to shine and equal time to impress too! Joss Stone trades verses with Damian Marley about looking for miracles and love, and Mick Jagger brings his swagger in his individual moments. The song really makes you want to dance too, and it sounds like a big party for the singers too. Rahman has a lovely verse alongside Ann Marie Calhoun’s lilting violin solo. A lovely track!

On Energy, a synth filled pop song that sounds very U2 with gritty guitar riffs by Dave Stewart and Damian Marley playing hype man to Mick Jagger who raps! Jagger makes a very noble attempt and it is average but weird! But when he calms down and goes into rock mode he has a lot of energy has fun, which is the main objective. Joss Stone also pipes in during the chorus but seems a bit out of her depth when standing next to rock vet Jagger. It just very overproduced here and not the best track out of the bunch. It sounds very cheesy by the end and does not do any justice to any of their talents.

Onto one of the better songs of the album, Satyame Jayathe, where Rahman takes over, and it starts beautifully with a tranquil choir singing the chorus. Jagger and Rahman both sing in Hindi, which is an interesting affair, as Jagger’s snarl on the Hindi words just does not sound good. The song takes the usual reggae route and then veers into a rock during the chorus, these diverse genres mesh pretty well as Rahman maintains control over the proceedings. Joss Stone’s interludes are dominated by the music. Ann Marie Calhoun and Dave Stewart also enter in the song near the end of the song and sound fabulous. Despite the drawbacks, the song is a good merging of all the singers’ genres.

One Day One Night, sounds like a lost Rolling Stones record in the best way possible. Definitely, a favourite on the album, Jagger sounds like a barfly straight out the pages of a Beat Generation novel. The music is gorgeous for this song, not too gaudy or noisy, a simple piano and fiddle and violin in the back are in harmony with the gin-soaked lyrics. Damian Marley reveals a softer side to his voice, and he sounds fantastic. Rahman’s characteristic orchestra sound also comes in midway and makes the song even more sorrowful. Joss Stone joins Jagger near the end and finally holds her own against the music and the man.

We veer into a less successful territory with, Never Gonna Change, where Mick Jagger takes over the song, trying his best to sound soulful and crushed but ends up sounding snivelling and too quivery. Jagger has one of the most iconic voices in rock history, but he does often falter with too much hamming and this is the case with this song. It is sad as the composition is slowed down and has a lovely plunking piano tempo in the back. Skip this one.

Joss Stone finally gets her groove back in, Beautiful People, she sounds gorgeous here with her breathy belting, and the layering of her voice throughout makes this song her own. Jagger sounds good in his parts, and adds his nasal twang every few minutes in the back. Damian Marley’s toasting is equally innovative and funny at times, which gives the song a bit of a kick. It ends a bit anticlimactically but Stone and Jagger sharing whispery verses finally sound in sync with each other.

One of the stunners of the albums is Rock Me Gently, where Damian Marley again drops the toasting and unleashes a croaky and weathered voice that sounds utterly amazing. Joss Stone slinks it up on her backup vocals. When the tempo speeds up both Marley and Stone do not overdo it and go to screeching and keeps it low-key. Stewart’s backing riffs make the song a lovely showcase for Marley and Stone to try something new.

We’re back to louder territory with I Can’t Take It Anymore, and if it initially sounds a bit too Poison-esque then Jagger takes over with his topical lyrics calling politicians ‘scurvy’ and ‘magicians’ which hardly sounds rabble-rousing. The lyrics truly disappoint and the song is a bit too repetitive.

Another topical song with I Don’t Mind, which has substantially better lyrics, if a bit heavy-handed. Full of symbols and repetitions, Jagger makes them stand out with his soulful crooning. Stone and Jagger sharing vocals, and they sound very warm and fun without their incessant showboating. However, Marley’s toasting verse dominates the track and he steals the show with a very sly nod to fellow Eurythmics bandmate Dave Stewart with ‘sweet dreams are made of me and who are you to disagree?’ Marley is finally given a perfect outlet to display his skills instead of being used in most of the tracks to pepper in some toasting while Jagger dominates.

And then we get to the unfortunate, World Keeps Turning, which is the obvious ‘we are the world’ style anthem. Stone does stand out in the track despite the lacklustre material. The music is hardly there but the usual soppy sort of percussion we get in most anthems. Skip this one!

Finally, we get back to AR Rahman in Mahiya, as we start with a thumping dhol beat and cymbals at the beginning of the song, which gets you in a dancing mood. Rahman repeats the title like a chant and it sounds so good alongside the Middle Eastern sound that he infuses in there. Stone wows in her small interludes, as does Marley during the bridge of the song. Jagger stays in the back quietly humming along allowing Rahman to take centre stage which is thankful. Rahman’s vocals are beautiful and this song makes you want to swirl around like the Sufi saints in ‘Khwaja Mere Khwaja’. It is a shame that the song ends quite early which makes one wish for more.

AR Rahman opens the next track Warring People, and one hopes that would set the tone for the rest of the song. Alas the song is hampered by shoddy lyrics, and it is a shame that Damian Marley’s only verse ‘are you warring, are you warring?’ which sounds like a nursery rhyme. The group are all over the place in this one, Jagger doing his usual posturing and Stone does what she can with the lyrics and salvages some of the song. Rahman’s interludes of ‘kaun haara kaun jeeta’ are the better lyrics of the song, he intersperses them throughout the song, and it does work especially when he alternates them with various drums. Listen to it for strictly Rahman!

One of the best songs is Common Ground, which has a funky reggae beat mixed in with violins and fiddles and it is very enjoyable. Stone also has a chance to have without resorting to belting and screeching and that suits the song really well. Jagger also has fun too with some good lyrics and puts that Jagger snarl and swagger to excellent use on the track. Marley seems more at home with the reggae sound of the tune and he works really alongside Stone. The plunking riff by Stewart sounds very Santana and adds another layer of freshness and depth to the song.

The last track Hey Captain is a good way to end the album, Sir Mick does attempt to rap again with better lyrics, and it is a bit better than his bad attempt in the earlier Energy. The layering of African drums against the fiercely electronic beat sounds fabulous together. When the singers all join in during the chorus, they have energetic competition of who can snarl and screech the most but it does sound good in the end.

One must applaud Dave Stewart for putting together these diverse talents, but the result is quite a hodge podge of tracks and a glorified jam session between all these artists. When you have Mick Jagger as the bandleader, it is going to be hard for him not strut his stuff and sometimes the tracks suffer from his dominance. However, it is gratifying to hear Jagger outside of his Rolling Stones persona and enjoying himself with Keith by his side. Yet the album has produced two fabulous musicians in Joss Stone, who despite her overdoing the belting has a beautiful voice, and Damian Marley, who clearly has his dad’s talent running in his toasting and talent. AR Rahman when he does feature always uplifts the proceedings but one senses he was added to the band to pepper in some Bollywood beats. Dave Stewart who also produced the album goes a tad overboard at times making a bit overdone at times.

SuperHeavy makes a noble debut with mixed results but they do suffer from ‘too many cooks’ syndrome, they definitely have a good rapport with each other and a unique quality. Definitely check it out to see the experiment.
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