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Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: maumau ()
Date: September 20, 2011 20:41

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nocomment
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sweet things
[m.usatoday.com]

this article is great, a very much extended version of something
we saw earlier, but so many great quotes wow, thanks for the link

no intent to argue here nocomment, maybe you explained before, but why you do post as "we"?

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: HighwireC ()
Date: September 20, 2011 20:50

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maumau
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nocomment
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sweet things
[m.usatoday.com]

this article is great, a very much extended version of something
we saw earlier, but so many great quotes wow, thanks for the link

no intent to argue here nocomment, maybe you explained before, but why you do post as "we"?

Hi MauMau. NoComment is talking with Sweet Things, you can see. We shouldn't interrupt those intimacy by silly questions ... cool smiley

Let's Walk The [www.highwire-therollingstones.de]

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: Roscoe ()
Date: September 20, 2011 21:03

Another pan, this one from today's Washington Post. Is anybody keeping score?


SuperHeavy”

“I bet you never would believe that you’d hear Damian Marley, Dave Stewart, A.R. Rahman, Mick Jagger and Joss Stone in a rub-a-dub version,” Marley sings on “Miracle Worker,” the first single from SuperHeavy, the aforementioned supercollective.

“Imagine! I mean, think about it,” continues Marley, though now he’s just rubbing it in. Most supergroup albums are awkward, disjointed and pointless, and “SuperHeavy” is no exception, though it faces an unusually high hurdle. Most all-star bands need only to blend personalities, but SuperHeavy must blend genres as well: Rahman is an Indian composer famous for his work on “Slumdog Millionaire,” R&B singer Stone is a voice in search of good material (she won’t find it here) and Marley is a reggae singer.

“SuperHeavy” features a little bit of everything — corporate rock, Indian pop sung in Urdu and a rapping Jagger. Save for a raggedy ragga vibe, there’s no connective tissue holding these songs together. Everybody on “SuperHeavy” seems to be starring on a different album than everybody else.“SuperHeavy” has its pleasures (to hear Jagger in the company of other singers, which has almost never happened, is fascinating), but they’re far outweighed by its discontents. \

“SuperHeavy” is a party to which only SuperHeavy has been invited. On the song “SuperHeavy” (yes, SuperHeavy has written a song about itself. And, yes, that tells you pretty much everything you need to know), SuperHeavy informs the listener that it is going to rock you, and when it’s done rocking you, a procedure it assures you will indeed take place, it will rock you some more. “You’ve got no choice,” Stone explains, and, anyway, “it’s none of your business.”Somebody on “Superheavy” will be having fun, in other words. But it won’t be you.

— Allison Stewart

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: LeonidP ()
Date: September 21, 2011 00:28

Gave another listen, like it even more ... This is better than any Mick solo album, except for Wandering Spirit.

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 21, 2011 03:56

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maumau
no intent to argue here nocomment, maybe you explained before, but why you do post as "we"?

its confusing to us too. just feels more comfortable, don't know why.
will try not to anymore. gonna try to stick to "i and i"...

i and i happy about this tweet from dave:

Superheavy I-tunes album charts Austria#2Belgium #5France #3Germany #5Italy #3Netherlands#1Norway #5Portugal #4 Spain #9Sweden #4Switzerland #7 (peak #3)Greece #1UK #8

added message content for no reason -- l'wren's personal tweet pic:





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Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 21, 2011 04:30

lonnnnnnnnng superheavy article at yahoo music:

[new.music.yahoo.com]

some excerpts:


Stewart: “No matter what Mick does, he always gets ‘Hey, you should be back in
the Stones. You shouldn’t do anything apart from doing that.’ And other people
get that when they try and step outside of their norm. But I think this was so
far outside of it that everybody was like, ‘Okay, what is that?’ Or ‘WTF,’ as
you say.”


The last time Jagger participated in anything remotely resembling a supergroup,
it was Jamming With Edward, which wasn’t so much a “project” as an accident that
eventually got released, years after it was put down on tape in the late ‘60s.
Naturally, he sees SuperHeavy in a wholly different light from that ancient cult
album.


“That was a jam,” says Jagger. “The Jamming with Edward thing was basically the
Rolling Stones with Ry (Cooder). But none of this was a jam. Of course we did
jamming, but we never released that. This was about writing songs, and songs
that have beginnings, middles, ends, choruses. We wanted to make songs that you
could remember, or could dance to, or were just rather wistful…


“With supergroups in the old days, it was like the most famous bass payer, the
most famous guitarist, and a good drummer—you know what I mean. This is a more
experimental record. When Dave and I talked about what we wanted to achieve by
doing it, we were trying to do something that was fun and inventive and as a
piece of work would represent a lot of different styles, and yet within that
would be meaningful mixtures that would really hang together. And I think on the
whole we’ve managed to achieve that.”


Although Jagger emphasizes that SuperHeavy is all about having coherent, compact
songs, Stewart makes it clear that the tunes did mostly come together through
interplay in the studio—an approach he says made his primary partner slightly
nervous.

“It’s kind of scary, on one hand,” Stewart says. “Mick was going, like, ‘Whoa,
hang on!’ He couldn’t believe it, the night before, that we weren’t going in
with any songs. But what happened was, in the first sort of 90 minutes, a kind
of explosion. We had three songs on the go. Besides the (support) musicians in
the room, you’ve got the five of us, and everybody’s playing and jamming, and
suddenly one of the group members starts doing something and the others start to
lock in. That’s when you start to realize, ‘Oh yeah, I forgot, this is serious
stuff.’ Because every single member is pretty good at what they do, and it’s
suddenly like, ‘Oh, shit, I’m on a racehorse, but a really good one. I better
concentrate!’”



A.R. Rahman, the Indian film composer known for his work on 127 Hours and
especially Slumdog Millionaire, would be the member you’d figure would have the
least experience with group improvisation. And you’d be right.


“Yeah,” says Stewart, “at the beginning [Rahman] was like, ‘Hang on, how do I…’
He said when he was at school, he was in a band, so it kind of reminded him a
bit of that. But he hadn’t done it in so long. He was used to being in control
of making soundscapes and using orchestras and all that stuff. And then towards
the end, he was the one most into creating jams and all this kind of
[spontaneous] stuff. In fact, he’s still doing it now. I keep getting emails.

He’s in India at the moment, and he’s experimenting even more with
SuperHeavy tracks.”




Jagger admits he wasn’t sure how he and Rahman would gel.

“A.R. I had never worked with, so he was a bit of an unknown quantity to me,”
Jagger says. “I didn’t quite understand how he was going to just fit in, because
since his high school days, he’s always been in charge of all his own thing. So
to fit into other people’s things -- I think at the beginning he found that a
little bit difficult, even though he seemed very into it. So he was the most
left-field contributor, in a way, because a lot of his things that he added were
kind of more of a spiritual nature. And obviously his [primary songwriting
contribution, ‘Satyameva Jayathe’] was the one that wasn’t in English. So I
would listen very closely to what he was trying to do and question him about
where that was from and how he came upon it…

“The first thing that he did that I really liked was in the song called
‘Unbelievable.’ He played the solo. But it was not an Indian instrument, but
actually an ancient Persian instrument called the santur, which was really out
of left field. I said, ‘Wow, I’ve always liked the music of the santur, but I
never thought I’d actually have a santur solo.’ The whole thing was kind of fun
like that. You never knew quite what was gonna happen.”



“I enjoy singing with women,” Jagger says, “because the obvious thing is that,
apart from the fact that you’re a different sex, they have a voice that’s
usually very different from yours, so that it’s much easier to sing with them,
because they’re always gonna do harmonies above you. Or if they’re singing lead,
you’re gonna always be below them. In that way, it’s easier than singing with a
man, in some ways.”

Trading verses with Bob Marley’s son, meanwhile can’t help but remind fans of
“Don’t Look Back,” Jagger’s popular late-‘70s duet with Jimmy Cliff, or some of
the Stones’ own reggae-fied tunes.

“I’m very at home in that idiom,” Jagger affirms. “And we did another song on
there—it’s one of the bonus tracks [‘Common Ground,’ on the deluxe edition]—
which is more in a soka idiom rather than a reggae idiom. You would have thought
that came from Damian, but actually it really came from Dave and me, initially.
And even on the ballad that Joss and I do [‘I Don’t Mind’], because we had a
Jamaican rhythm section, it gave it a slightly different lilt than it would have
had if we’d had a rock drummer or one of our L.A. friends drumming.”



This is the third release Stewart has been involved with in the course of just a
few short months. First, there was his own solo project; then, the solo album he
produced for Stone, which was made in-between the SuperHeavy sessions; and,
obviously, SuperHeavy. Ironically, of these three albums, the one that actually
has a Rolling Stone on it is the only one that doesn’t sound particularly Stonesy.




Jagger and all his fellow Stones were recently seen coming out of a London
office, lending support to speculation that the band will hit the road again
next year. We couldn’t help asking: Are we more likely to see him on stage with
SuperHeavy or the Stones?


“Or maybe it’ll be nothing,” he says, breaking into a hearty laugh. “Probably
it’ll be nothing at all! No, I never wanted to do the SuperHeavy 100-city tour.
It doesn’t really appeal to me, and I don’t think it appeals to Dave. But if
there was some special show [to do] in some different kind of way, we’d always
want to do that…


“And as for the Stones,” Jagger adds, “I don’t really know what the Stones are
going to do next year, or indeed any other year. But we’ve got the 50th
anniversary coming up. I’m sure that there’ll be all kinds of Stones-related
things [in 2012], and everyone will be harshly bored with it by the end of the
year!”

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 21, 2011 04:36

huge improvement here:

Amazon USA Best Sellers Rank: #15 in Music
#9 in Music > Rock
#15 in Music > Pop

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 21, 2011 06:48

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proudmary
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nocomment
maybe uh its time to change the title of this thread
to reflect the actual name of the band?

I edited it, thanks for pointing it out.

ok, now i and i got another question for you, proudmary. people who hate
SuperHeavy now have their own thread, SuperHeavy Sucks! is this thread,
YOUR thread, neutral towards SuperHeavy, just reporting the news neutrally,
or is this thread for people who like them?

If the latter, how about jazzing up the title a little? so it catches
the eye better...

Our suggestion: "We CraZy love SuperHeavy" but we're sure you can do better.

respectfully, who-cares-what-our-name-is-this-week

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: September 21, 2011 07:10

I'm with a lot of the people on here, who think there are too many superheavy threads...but that tends to happen whenever there is big news of any sort.

I like this thread particular where SH is discussed, when discussed rationally, whether you happen to like SH or not.

What I dislike is some of the venom I've seen directed towards SH or posters who happen to like SH. I don't get it...what is the source for the anger?

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 21, 2011 07:54

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treaclefingers
I like this thread particular where SH is discussed, when discussed rationally, whether you happen to like SH or not.

i and i agree and don't agree at the same time. what u say would be better
than people trashing tings. But same time, "rational" is kinda irrational
when it come to music, nah mean? huge problem in stonesland is everybody
being "rational" about them for years now. as if the stones was a theory
or something. this kind of "rational" fan is what put stones on life support,
not keet richards. you cant love "theory", you gwan be rational about it, course.
but i and i say, if u not crazy in love with stones, go love some other band.
same with superheavy. u don't love them? then go spend time with sumpin or
sumbody u love. quit wasting yer precious time on wat u think is shit or semi-shit.



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Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: maumau ()
Date: September 21, 2011 08:28




Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 21, 2011 08:33















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Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 21, 2011 08:48

and how could we forget...





King of Kings and Lord of Lords Everlasting Everlaster
Inspire I and I to be a microphone blaster
--- Damian Marley



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Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: September 21, 2011 09:27

CHICAGO SUN-TIMES
BY THOMAS CONNER
It’s the summer of supergroups. In rock, we got Wild Flag (hot). In hip-hop, we got Kanye & Jay-Z (tepid). For every other genre, apparently, we’re now offered SuperHeavy (warm), an unexpected conglomerate of the Rolling Stones’ Mick Jagger, 68; Eurythmics co-founder Dave Stewart, 59; British soul singer Joss Stone, 24; Damian Marley, 33, son of the late reggae icon Bob, and Indian film composer A.R. Rahman, 45 (“Slumdog Millionaire”).

If that combination of talent seems confounding, the band itself is just as bewildered. Late in the record, Stone can be heard crying, “What the f--- is going on?!”

The quintet’s self-titled debut, “SuperHeavy,” wears pretty thin by the second half, but it boasts a few fiery moments. Marley’s feisty toasting and the rocking reggae rhythms of his band take the lead on most tracks; Rahman’s Bollywood strings, meanwhile, enhance more than they intrude.

But it’s Jagger that’s the pleasant surprise. The Glimmer Twin chews through the material with a bite he hasn’t had on record in years. In the bluesy “One Day One Night” he’s really unleashed, spewing Tom Waitsisms (“a rotten cheap motel with a stale old smell,” something he probably hasn’t encountered in 40 years) with such fervor he becomes wonderfully unintelligible.

A handful of songs strike the right musical balance, but they don’t all succeed. Most songs labor to include everyone’s input. The album’s greatest failing is that these five figures simply never came up with anything to say. “I said, ‘Hey!’ ” is about as deep as it gets (“Energy”). Maybe not super, but it bests most of Jagger’s solo records.

[www.suntimes.com]

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: drewmaster ()
Date: September 21, 2011 09:28

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Roscoe
Another pan, this one from today's Washington Post. Is anybody keeping score?


SuperHeavy”

“I bet you never would believe that you’d hear Damian Marley, Dave Stewart, A.R. Rahman, Mick Jagger and Joss Stone in a rub-a-dub version,” Marley sings on “Miracle Worker,” the first single from SuperHeavy, the aforementioned supercollective.

“Imagine! I mean, think about it,” continues Marley, though now he’s just rubbing it in. Most supergroup albums are awkward, disjointed and pointless, and “SuperHeavy” is no exception, though it faces an unusually high hurdle. Most all-star bands need only to blend personalities, but SuperHeavy must blend genres as well: Rahman is an Indian composer famous for his work on “Slumdog Millionaire,” R&B singer Stone is a voice in search of good material (she won’t find it here) and Marley is a reggae singer.

“SuperHeavy” features a little bit of everything — corporate rock, Indian pop sung in Urdu and a rapping Jagger. Save for a raggedy ragga vibe, there’s no connective tissue holding these songs together. Everybody on “SuperHeavy” seems to be starring on a different album than everybody else.“SuperHeavy” has its pleasures (to hear Jagger in the company of other singers, which has almost never happened, is fascinating), but they’re far outweighed by its discontents. \

“SuperHeavy” is a party to which only SuperHeavy has been invited. On the song “SuperHeavy” (yes, SuperHeavy has written a song about itself. And, yes, that tells you pretty much everything you need to know), SuperHeavy informs the listener that it is going to rock you, and when it’s done rocking you, a procedure it assures you will indeed take place, it will rock you some more. “You’ve got no choice,” Stone explains, and, anyway, “it’s none of your business.”Somebody on “Superheavy” will be having fun, in other words. But it won’t be you.

— Allison Stewart

This review sums it up very nicely.

Yes, what is the score?

Drew

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: September 21, 2011 09:29

Review: 'SuperHeavy' Moves Like Jagger, With Good Reason
By Chris Willman

How you feel about Mick Jagger’s new "band," SuperHeavy, will depend on how much natural fondness you have not just for Mick but for mutts.
Supergroups don't get any more mongrel-like. Ex-Eurythmic Dave Stewart assembled the team, which also includes soul belter Joss Stone, reggae toaster Damian Marley, and Indian film composer A.R. Rahman. “Pick one from categories A, B, C, D and E” was the operative motif; It’s more chemistry experiment than organic hybrid, to be sure.

Cynics will suppose that a combination platter like this has an obligation to be quintuply good to live up to the participants’ combined reps. That’s not going to happen, but if non-stop genre-crossing just for the sake of it sounds like your idea of a good time – and why shouldn’t it? -- “SuperHeavy” is a light feast of good fun.

Jagger and Stone have a strong musical rapport, the four-decade age difference notwithstanding. Jagger has a history of success interacting with female singers – think Merry Clayton on “Gimme Shelter,” on forward through live and recorded pairings with everyone from Tina Turner to Sheryl Crow to Christina Aguilera – and, as an album-length foil, Stone knows just when to support or overpower him.

You might think of “SuperHeavy” as a duets album that just happens to be interrupted on a regular basis by Marley's spoken-word interpolations. Of course, Jagger has a rich history with reggae, too, so there’s a certain nostalgic inevitability to hearing him interact with Bob Marley’s kid instead of Jimmy Cliff.

The clear standout is “Energy,” which lives up to its name with an insanely propulsive synth riff, motor-mouthed Marley rant, and instantly catchy Jagger/Stone chorus. (Presumably that’s Mick doing the terrific harmonica solo, too.) If “Energy” had been the advance single, instead of the laconic reggae exercise “Miracle Worker,” the album would almost certainly have more advance buzz.

Among the reggae numbers, “Beautiful People” is a bigger winner than “Miracle Worker,” with Stone cooing sweetly alongside Jagger, instead of trying to out-wail him, on the record’s most gorgeous hook.

Less successful: The opening number, with the ultra-eponymous title of “SuperHeavy,” has Marley giving a sort of mission statement for the group, as if he were introducing the Avengers or some other superhero collective. When Stone sings they’re going to “take no prisoners/You’ve got no choice/And it’s none of your business,” it comes off as a little too proud for an outfit that really doesn’t seem to have any designs on touring, much less world domination. And when the otherwise invisible Rahman enters the song's fray with some wordless murmuring, you sense the token effort to randomly squeeze him in.

These are the pluses and minuses of a democratic collaboration with multiple front-people: It’s like the weather, in that if you don’t like what any one participant is doing at any given time, wait a few seconds and it’ll change. The variety's nice, even if sometimes you wish a song would settle in longer with one singer or another. Jagger does get one song-length lead vocal, and a good one, on the ballad “Never Gonna Change,” which not coincidentally is the album’s only truly Stonesy and/or acoustically based track.

Given how rarely Rolling Stones albums come along – and how predictable they can be when they do – it’s a kick just to hear him engaged in playtime with someone besides his old mates after all these years. “SuperHeavy” is hardly an album for the ages, but in the moment, it beats being resigned to Maroon 5’s tribute track for our Mick-move needs.

[www.reuters.com]

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: Braincapers ()
Date: September 21, 2011 10:21

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Braincapers
Downloaded last night and played the first 8 tracks on the way in. My first thought was that's £8.50 I won't get back. My second thought was I think they are trying a bit too hard, it didn't sound relaxed. But I've only played half the album once I need to give it a fair crack of the whip.

Well the second half didn't change my opinion much. I did come to the conclusion that I don't like Joss Stone but I do like Damian Marley.

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 21, 2011 11:48

nice posts, proudmary! so valuable for you to include every ignorant
malicious review on this thread. you should be VERY proud of yourself.
because why post them on the SuperHeavy-sucks thread, where they belong, when
you can just boost your own thread's view count by clogging it up with what
hacks and haters write? we so admire your objectivity and lack of love!
keep up the good work!

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 21, 2011 15:15

abc news, nightline and good morning america:



"Common Ground," the song on the self-titled debut album from SuperHeavy -- a
supergroup that includes Mike Jagger, Joss Stone, Dave Stewart and other -- grew
naturally out of the group's improvisational approach to recording.

"In the middle of the first session, we couldn't find it for a second. So that
made us call the idea, 'Oh, common ground. We're searching for common ground.'
And it all came back again," said Eurythmics founder Dave Stewart in an
interview with "Good Morning America" anchor Robin Roberts.

Get a taste of the interview on "Good Morning America" this morning at 7 a.m.,
then watch the full story on "Nightline" tonight at 11:35 p.m. ET



Starting in 2009, the group gathered in a large studio in Los Angeles and simply
played and sang. At the time, they were practically strangers.

"It was a lot of creative making up moments," Stone said. "We made songs, but
they lasted for 45 minutes. The [eventual] song appeared at 37 minutes and three
seconds. And we'd go back in the control room and go, Ah, that's good. And then
we'd have to edit it down," said Stewart. Then they might do it again, focusing
on that distilled idea.

"You have to let everybody take the idea that they have as far as it possibly
can go," said Jagger. "Even though in your heart you might think, This is never
going to work.... Then the other part of you goes, Let it go, because it may
work. ... You have to help it build. You take it to the extreme, and you go,
You see, I told you it wouldn't work. Or, Wow, that's fantastic."

The group came together as organically as its sound.

"We didn't say, 'Hey, do you want to make a record? It was, Hey, do you want to
get together and see what happens when these different music and cultural influences come together?'" Stewart said.


The lone woman of the group, Stone burst onto the music scene at the age of 16.
While working in the studio, her fellow SuperHeavy bandmates said the now
energetic 24-year-old would spontaneously sing mundane statements such as, "I
want a salad."


"I'm a little chatty," Stone said. "I get excited and I can't help it. It's just
what -- I've got a lot to say."

"Joss is very quick," Jagger said. "I try to be quick, too. I don't like messing
around."


As for a possible tour, Jagger said they'd "been offered two funny shows in
India," but there were no plans yet. "We want to see if there's something fun
that we can do as a show differently, not just a straight-up show."


But when asked if the Rolling Stones might tour next year to celebrate their
50th anniversary, Jagger said, "There'd be a very big cake, and I'm gonna jump
out of it dressed as a woman, in a nice dress. That's what we're gonna do."

"Earrings?" asked Stone.

"Yeah, big earrings," Jagger said. "And everyone will cheer."

What's amazing about 68-year-old Jagger, Stewart added, is his rigorous adherence to exercise and healthy eating, "yet he still goes wild."

"He manages to do it all," he said.



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Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: IrelandCalling4 ()
Date: September 21, 2011 16:12

In HMV there at lunchtime and had a look at the standard release of the album (bought the Deluxe Edition last week) - it looks like a booklet inside the standard edition aswell as one attached to the back under the plastic

Is there more stuff (lyrics..etc) or more pages to the booklet on the standard edition than the deluxe?

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: sweet things ()
Date: September 21, 2011 18:34

Quote
nocomment
Quote
sweet things
[m.usatoday.com]

this article is great, a very much extended version of something
we saw earlier, but so many great quotes wow, thanks for the link

smiling smiley

you're welcome! nice picture too

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: September 21, 2011 18:52

Quote
nocomment
abc news, nightline and good morning america:



"Common Ground," the song on the self-titled debut album from SuperHeavy -- a
supergroup that includes Mike Jagger, Joss Stone, Dave Stewart and other -- grew
naturally out of the group's improvisational approach to recording.

"In the middle of the first session, we couldn't find it for a second. So that
made us call the idea, 'Oh, common ground. We're searching for common ground.'
And it all came back again," said Eurythmics founder Dave Stewart in an
interview with "Good Morning America" anchor Robin Roberts.

Get a taste of the interview on "Good Morning America" this morning at 7 a.m.,
then watch the full story on "Nightline" tonight at 11:35 p.m. ET



Starting in 2009, the group gathered in a large studio in Los Angeles and simply
played and sang. At the time, they were practically strangers.

"It was a lot of creative making up moments," Stone said. "We made songs, but
they lasted for 45 minutes. The [eventual] song appeared at 37 minutes and three
seconds. And we'd go back in the control room and go, Ah, that's good. And then
we'd have to edit it down," said Stewart. Then they might do it again, focusing
on that distilled idea.

"You have to let everybody take the idea that they have as far as it possibly
can go," said Jagger. "Even though in your heart you might think, This is never
going to work.... Then the other part of you goes, Let it go, because it may
work. ... You have to help it build. You take it to the extreme, and you go,
You see, I told you it wouldn't work. Or, Wow, that's fantastic."

The group came together as organically as its sound.

"We didn't say, 'Hey, do you want to make a record? It was, Hey, do you want to
get together and see what happens when these different music and cultural influences come together?'" Stewart said.


The lone woman of the group, Stone burst onto the music scene at the age of 16.
While working in the studio, her fellow SuperHeavy bandmates said the now
energetic 24-year-old would spontaneously sing mundane statements such as, "I
want a salad."


"I'm a little chatty," Stone said. "I get excited and I can't help it. It's just
what -- I've got a lot to say."

"Joss is very quick," Jagger said. "I try to be quick, too. I don't like messing
around."


As for a possible tour, Jagger said they'd "been offered two funny shows in
India," but there were no plans yet. "We want to see if there's something fun
that we can do as a show differently, not just a straight-up show."


But when asked if the Rolling Stones might tour next year to celebrate their
50th anniversary, Jagger said, "There'd be a very big cake, and I'm gonna jump
out of it dressed as a woman, in a nice dress. That's what we're gonna do."

"Earrings?" asked Stone.

"Yeah, big earrings," Jagger said. "And everyone will cheer."

What's amazing about 68-year-old Jagger, Stewart added, is his rigorous adherence to exercise and healthy eating, "yet he still goes wild."

"He manages to do it all," he said.




Man, Ms. Stone's legs just seem to go on and on and on in this picture don't they?!?

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: September 21, 2011 19:00

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So it's finally here. Sir Mick Jagger's supergroup Superheavy, featuring the legend himself along with AR Rahman [ Images ], Dave Stewart, Joss Stone and Damian Marley, has its first self-titled album out. Is it any good? Do they all show up as often? Or is it just The Mick Jagger Fusion project? Read on for my first impressions:

What we learn from the title track is that Superheavy sounds much better without the H. "Supa'eavy" is all Damian Marley, the reggaeman shining even as everyone else in the group gets a turn in the spotlight. Stone is a trifle too aggressive, while Rahman warbles across multiple layers with mesmeric grace.

Up next is Unbelievable, kicked off by Sir Mick singing along to a repetitive synth-guitar loop that would fit right into an 1980s Bollywood dance. Other voices appear and the song is made funner by Ms Stone's crooning, but this remains an unspectacular track despite Rahman vocally insisting on its "kamaal".

We've heard Miracle Worker before, a track where Jagger has a blast with the strangely serpentine lyrics -- "my loving laser will regenerate your heart" -- and it's fair to call it the kind of track that works better with each listen. It's shinily produced pop, sure, but it fits just right.


Energy starts off almost industrially, Marley throwing out words about anti-oxidants with fierce urgency before Stone and Jagger take it on a more conventionally balladic route. Sir Mick raps too, but that feels a bit strained and it's the choral bits between him and the girl that work strongest here.

Satyameva Jayate is a definite standout track, Rahman taking the obvious lead while Stewart presumably constructs a soundscape disparate enough to give each collaborator enough room to let their vocals dance. And the joy with which Jagger leads the chorus makes this one special.

Jagger's wailing is feline in One Day One Night, a tired old tomcat singing about a bottle of vodka. It's old school, whiskey-jazzy and works brilliantly by itself before Marley comes in to sing about a spliff. It is with songs like this, clearly individual tracks forced into becoming duets, that Superheavy stumbles the most, despite the talent clearly on display. By the end of the song, as the rock gets heavier and Stone powers through, the sound is but utterly unrecognizable -- and, smitten by the lazily simple way it began, I doubt the metamorphosis was as necessary.

Jagger Never Change smells far too strongly of Rod Stewart [ Images ] (specifically, of the classic Handbags And Gladrags) but Mick's voice has always been a safe bet for this sort of melancholic love song. He guides the simple, slightly cloying but well-written track strongly, and, thankfully, no visitors cut in.

Stone sounds delicious on Beautiful People, breathy-whispery and over-layered. Jagger's around and having a fine time, as is young Marley, invoking "Spida'Man, Peter Parker" the best possible rhyme for "New Yorker." But this is Stone's show all the way, a chorus of her own voices backing up for her lead vocals. The individual bits work very well here, but it adds up underwhelmingly. It ends up oddly unsatisfying, too much finger-canoodling with no climax in mind.

Rock Me Gently is where Marley gives his hyperactive tongue a rest and sings casually, unhurriedly, beautifully. Stone provides lovely backup, and this ends up a fine albeit unmemorable track, at least on first listen.

Things get louder on I Can't Take It Anymore, a punchy pure rock track that would sound Scorpion-y were it not for Jagger calling politicians "scurvy" and often vocally bringing up ghosts of legendary never-buried songs. Politely speaking, it's ordinary.

I Don't Mind is a pretty Stone/Jagger duet somewhat let down by the lyrics even as both vocalists are both tender and playful. The repetition here -- "shimmering, shimmering, shimmering", "gathering, gathering, gathering" -- works nicely, but Marley ends up owning the track with a bravado-filled turn, especially nailing a line that rephrases Dave Stewart's Eurythmics hit Sweet Dreams with clever savagery: "sweet dreams are made of me and who are you to disagree?" Very cool.

World Keeps Turning tries far too hard to be an anthem to actually be enjoyable, but the quintet is soon galvanized with Rahman's turn at bat. Or, rather, dhol. Mahiya evolves constantly, ARR spinning the simple words around over and over, dervish-like, while Stone croons softly through a desert soundscape. It ends, however, just when most interesting.

Warring People is up next, an ambitious song kicked off cracklingly with Rahman wondering about "kaun haara kaun jeeta" and soon turned to well-intentioned malarkey with Jagger's pedestrian English lyrics. This band needs a writer.

Common Ground is a tremendously enjoyable song you deserve to discover on your own, and the album's finale, Hey Captain, packs more of a wallop than expected.

As with all supergroups, there's a lot of potential -- and a lot more posturing. Jagger is clearly the band's leader, despite it apparently being Stewart's idea, and Rahman, while frequently stunning, occasionally gets trapped in exotic-India mode. This is a great showcase for Stone, however, as it is for Marley who comes to the fore effortlessly. He might not be the one with the biggest fanbase in this bunch but, if this debut album is any indication, he soon will be.

This first album has a few songs too many and is not as special as it should be, but as a supergroup's first outing, this quintet has a distinct musical identity. They might not be super just yet, but they're pretty heavy alright.

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 21, 2011 19:01

(this song truly: bob marley and sade hang out
in keith and ron's dressing room on a good day.
with billy preston keeping it cool and tasteful.
if this music and these feeling don't wet you eye,
you dead man. throw dirt on youself. you dead.

bob marley still got like one billion fans, and him
singing on this song yes I. him singing from the grave.

every single idiot scumbag reviewer miss this song,
every single one. don't you join them no way.

we wish we knew the real words, but here's the ones
we write just for beautiful you)

in life what you treasure
joy and pleasure
it depends on how you measure
everybody want to live it up yeah
oh yeah

in life what you treasure
joy and pleasure
its the simpleness of things
it depends on what you measure okay
oh yeah

you choose what you pray for
some like it hot and some love the cold weather
don't take the pressure on man
oh no

long life, upward mobile markets and
happiness and everybody want it and
more love less stress and panic
enjoy yourself, take full advantage

when the noise dies ever
i will be dancing
music lives forever
and it never says never
no way

it goes on and on and on

and the love of the light thats in no lie
he was strolling through life without a light
and he trips on his soulmate,
he took the bite
now he rocks me gently
now he rocks me gently

when the good get better
sure is fun when we're building together
nobody wants to be alone yeah
oh no

Jah rising sun
make it play for the dawn
and the night is done
everybody wants to make it home

whenever our eyes meet
there's a question why
(there's more)
we don't have to try babe
(hello!)
our eying!

and the love of the light thats in no lie
he was strolling through life without a light
and he trips on his soulmate,
took the bite
now he rocks me gently
now he rocks me gently

it goes on and on and on

you don't have to fight no more

(we hereby break character to bring you these 2 comments:

1) we 199% for the stones going into the studio again,
but following this superheavy album is gonna be like
following James Brown at TAMI.

2) how can Joss and Damian not be in love after singing
this song to each other!? impossible!)

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: windmelody ()
Date: September 21, 2011 19:45

One day one night rocks.

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: UGot2Rollme ()
Date: September 21, 2011 22:08

upon first listen, Energy, Miracle Worker and Common Ground got me going... whole thing is pretty damn good. It's not rock n'roll, but I like it. I dug Damian's Jamrock cd, so he's a familiar voice and adds alot. Joss has great pipes, sometimes she pushes it too much. Some of the Indian flourishes seem a little too "token" and a little odd for me, but the whole package is nice.

I can hold off on the Stones for now - hope these guys and gal tour!

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: September 22, 2011 01:43

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nocomment
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treaclefingers
I like this thread particular where SH is discussed, when discussed rationally, whether you happen to like SH or not.

i and i agree and don't agree at the same time. what u say would be better
than people trashing tings. But same time, "rational" is kinda irrational
when it come to music, nah mean? huge problem in stonesland is everybody
being "rational" about them for years now. as if the stones was a theory
or something. this kind of "rational" fan is what put stones on life support,
not keet richards. you cant love "theory", you gwan be rational about it, course.
but i and i say, if u not crazy in love with stones, go love some other band.
same with superheavy. u don't love them? then go spend time with sumpin or
sumbody u love. quit wasting yer precious time on wat u think is shit or semi-shit.

For whatever we may disagree on...your last point is crystal clear and true.

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: September 22, 2011 01:50

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nocomment
nice posts, proudmary! so valuable for you to include every ignorant
malicious review on this thread. you should be VERY proud of yourself.
because why post them on the SuperHeavy-sucks thread, where they belong, when
you can just boost your own thread's view count by clogging it up with what
hacks and haters write? we so admire your objectivity and lack of love!
keep up the good work!

I don't see it that way NC...I don't mind reading the negative reviews when htey come up...it's interesting to see what they didn't like.

I'd prefer to read about it on this thread, then wade through the animosity on the other one. Who cares if there are some negative reviews?

Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 22, 2011 09:08

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treaclefingers

I don't see it that way NC...I don't mind reading the negative reviews when htey come up...it's interesting to see what they didn't like.

I'd prefer to read about it on this thread, then wade through the animosity on the other one. Who cares if there are some negative reviews?

you probably right. we do get carried away sometimes...

though we still think this thread needs a more eyecatching title...

also, superheavy launch party nyc (pretty even when not in pink):


Re: SuperHeavy
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: September 22, 2011 09:10

......nice jacket L'Wren ... ya wear it well .....

ROCKMAN

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