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maradona
Another run for YGMR, Jesper?
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frankotero
Either play Silver Train or take it off the list. Is anyone else getting tired of this game?
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On Facebook (the Likes) at the moment it looks as though If You Can't Rock Me will win. It's followed by You Got Me Rocking and then Silver Train. Of course that's just the likes on Facebook. I voted on their website for If You Can't Rock Me (my favourite of the list, not played recently) and then again for Silver Train (because of Taylor), but I'm not sure, if the second vote from same IP address counts.
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hockenheim95
do you really think the only ones who vote are the real hard core fans who attended hundreds of shows? of course I have voted for silver train but I think most of the people who vote here don`t know the song. I don`t think this poll is faked. There are simply more people who vote that don`t know every song...
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hockenheim95
do you really think the only ones who vote are the real hard core fans who attended hundreds of shows? of course I have voted for silver train but I think most of the people who vote here don`t know the song. I don`t think this poll is faked. There are simply more people who vote that don`t know every song...
I think they manipulate the vote sometimes. How ironic that Dead Flowers won the vote in Philadelphia last year and there just happened to be a country artist as the special guest. I think it all goes back to 1997 when, as I recall, Star Star was crushing the competition for the webvote for the St. Louis pay per view but then, from out of out nowhere, Waiting On A Friend wins when they happen to have Josh Redman, a saxophonist, as a guest. Hmmm.
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do you really think the only ones who vote are the real hard core fans who attended hundreds of shows? of course I have voted for silver train but I think most of the people who vote here don`t know the song. I don`t think this poll is faked. There are simply more people who vote that don`t know every song...
I think they manipulate the vote sometimes. How ironic that Dead Flowers won the vote in Philadelphia last year and there just happened to be a country artist as the special guest. I think it all goes back to 1997 when, as I recall, Star Star was crushing the competition for the webvote for the St. Louis pay per view but then, from out of out nowhere, Waiting On A Friend wins when they happen to have Josh Redman, a saxophonist, as a guest. Hmmm.
Don't put rarities in the web vote. Simple as that. Play them independent of that concept.
The way they do things now this band would never play Moonlight Mile, for example, like they did on No Security. Too risky.
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flacnvinyl
That was my first show. My dad took me and it blew my mind. I was so pumped to hear Star Star as the web vote and Little Queenie on the b stage... Waiting on a Friend was a betrayal. Ranks up there with the worst things they have ever done.. forget the fact that the fans voted for Star Star, Respectable and She's A Rainbow... just play a ballad instead.
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hockenheim95
do you really think the only ones who vote are the real hard core fans who attended hundreds of shows? of course I have voted for silver train but I think most of the people who vote here don`t know the song. I don`t think this poll is faked. There are simply more people who vote that don`t know every song...
I think they manipulate the vote sometimes. How ironic that Dead Flowers won the vote in Philadelphia last year and there just happened to be a country artist as the special guest. I think it all goes back to 1997 when, as I recall, Star Star was crushing the competition for the webvote for the St. Louis pay per view but then, from out of out nowhere, Waiting On A Friend wins when they happen to have Josh Redman, a saxophonist, as a guest. Hmmm.
Don't put rarities in the web vote. Simple as that. Play them independent of that concept.
The way they do things now this band would never play Moonlight Mile, for example, like they did on No Security. Too risky.
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I don't know anything about the 1997 vote. But Chuck Leavell comments on Dead Flowers (which wan several times, by the way, so it's maybe simply a favourite of many) in Philadelphia 2013 in his diary:
"For our first show in Philly, the guest would be Brad Paisley.
[...] In the mix for our “By Request”, I had put up “Dead Flowers”, and it had won the position. That was the perfect song to do with Brad, so we wound up combining his guest spot
Brad nailed “Dead Flowers” in rehearsal and we touched on a couple of other tunes, then broke from the stage to go back to our dressing rooms." ( Philadelphia 6/15-21/13)
Also he comments on earlier Katy Perry doing Beast of Burden, which had won also:
"Tonight’s guest would be Katy Perry….and she had requested to do “Beast of Burden”….which was cool as we have not done it on the tour yet. Ironically and to our favor, it was also the choice of the fans for the “By Request” part of the show where we give fans 5 songs to vote for in that slot. That helped me to write up a nice set list. I went to Mick’s dressing room around 4 to do a run through with him and Katy. She had a cold and warned us to give her enough space not to pass it on to us…which was thoughtful of her. She was very professional and had done her homework on the song, so the run through was smooth. She graciously agreed to take a photo of me with her, which was much appreciated. Then it was on to the stage for the sound check. We went over a few tunes, eventually getting to her with “Beast….”. We ran through it twice, and she was comfortable, so we moved on to the rest of the check, all happy and ready." (5/11/13)
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I don't put much stock into Chuck's diary as a historical record. My first question was when did Katy request to sing Beast? I'm guessing it wasn't that day as her appearance wasn't spontaneous. The inclusion of Beast on the web vote for that show was probably motivated by her desire to sing it. Was the web vote still open when Chuck did the run through with them at 4? Is it still active even when the winner has been decided? What would they have done if Beast hadn't won despite the desire of their guest's wish to sing it? This is all conjecture but the St. Louis vote left a bad taste in my mouth for a fan vote.
As far as Dead Flowers go I was there and it was really good. Just thought it was interesting.
I should add I am enjoying myself immensely analyzing this as I try and kill time at work.
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rockdoc8885
I was at this Philly show and there is NO way Dead Flowers won the vote. No Expectations was way out in front, but Brad Paisley was in the house so they "allowed" Dead Flowers to win.
I agree with other posters, put some of the warhorses in the vote and see which ones are played and which are deleted. That would prove interesting. Say, Honky Tonk Women, Paint It, Black, and Tumbling Dice. Don't need to play all three every night. Play a Moonlight Mile or Silver Train, or a No Expectations more often and delete a warhorse or two through the vote.
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I wonder, when they usually stop counting.
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I wonder, when they usually stop counting.
Just after You Got Me Rocking takes the lead ><
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fahthree
I don't put much stock into Chuck's diary as a historical record. My first question was when did Katy request to sing Beast? I'm guessing it wasn't that day as her appearance wasn't spontaneous. The inclusion of Beast on the web vote for that show was probably motivated by her desire to sing it. Was the web vote still open when Chuck did the run through with them at 4? Is it still active even when the winner has been decided? What would they have done if Beast hadn't won despite the desire of their guest's wish to sing it? This is all conjecture but the St. Louis vote left a bad taste in my mouth for a fan vote.
As far as Dead Flowers go I was there and it was really good. Just thought it was interesting.
I should add I am enjoying myself immensely analyzing this as I try and kill time at work.
If the decision to put the song onto the list was motivated by Perry's desire to sing it, why not? Could be, but so what? If another song had won, they would have put Beast of Burden into the guest spot and played the voted for song at another position. Like they did usually, since mostly these two (guest song and voted for song) were separate. Just because a song doesn't win, it doesn't mean, they can't play it nevertheless. They played Angie and Paint it Black in Abu Dhabi, though Gimme Shelter had won.
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I wonder, when they usually stop counting.
Just after You Got Me Rocking takes the lead ><
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StrawberriesBlueberries
I wonder, when they usually stop counting.
Just after You Got Me Rocking takes the lead ><
Or by Chuck's diary for Vegas we know at least 5 hours before show time.
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Or by Chuck's diary for Vegas we know at least 5 hours before show time.
Right, I just realized myself, you can draw some conclusions from Chuck's remark: "it was also the choice of the fans for the “By Request” part of the show where we give fans 5 songs to vote for in that slot. That helped me to write up a nice set list." So it sounds like they stop at latest around the time of doing the setlist, which is logical of course, meaning a few hours before the show or earlier.
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Or by Chuck's diary for Vegas we know at least 5 hours before show time.
Right, I just realized myself, you can draw some conclusions from Chuck's remark: "it was also the choice of the fans for the “By Request” part of the show where we give fans 5 songs to vote for in that slot. That helped me to write up a nice set list." So it sounds like they stop at latest around the time of doing the setlist, which is logical of course, meaning a few hours before the show or earlier.
But do they shut down the voting on the website? I coudd swear it stays active which renders those votes useless.
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I don't put much stock into Chuck's diary as a historical record. My first question was when did Katy request to sing Beast? I'm guessing it wasn't that day as her appearance wasn't spontaneous. The inclusion of Beast on the web vote for that show was probably motivated by her desire to sing it. Was the web vote still open when Chuck did the run through with them at 4? Is it still active even when the winner has been decided? What would they have done if Beast hadn't won despite the desire of their guest's wish to sing it? This is all conjecture but the St. Louis vote left a bad taste in my mouth for a fan vote.
As far as Dead Flowers go I was there and it was really good. Just thought it was interesting.
I should add I am enjoying myself immensely analyzing this as I try and kill time at work.
If the decision to put the song onto the list was motivated by Perry's desire to sing it, why not? Could be, but so what? If another song had won, they would have put Beast of Burden into the guest spot and played the voted for song at another position. Like they did usually, since mostly these two (guest song and voted for song) were separate. Just because a song doesn't win, it doesn't mean, they can't play it nevertheless. They played Angie and Paint it Black in Abu Dhabi, though Gimme Shelter had won.
If you know you are going to do it anyway then take it out of the pool of songs and give the fans another choice. As you said, they usually had the guest spot and web spot.