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Fortune Teller
(Allen Toussaint)

Decca Studios, West Hampstead, London, UK, July 9, 1963

Mick Jagger - lead vocals, backing vocals, tambourine
Keith Richards - electric guitar, backing vocals
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
Brian Jones - harmonica, backing vocals

Went to the fortune teller, had my fortune read
I didn't know what to tell her, I had a dizzy feeling in my head
Then she took a look at my palm, she said: Son, you feel kinda warm
She looked into her crystal ball and said: You're in love
I said that could not be so, I’m not passionate with the girls I know
She said: When the next one arrives, you’ll be looking into her eyes

I left there in a hurry, I’m looking forward to my big surprise
The next day I discovered that the fortune teller told me a lie
I hurried back down to that woman as mad as I could be
I told her I didn't see nobody, why'd she make a fool out of me
Then something struck me as if it came from up above
While looking at the fortune teller I fell in love

Now I'm a happy fellow, well, I'm married to the fortune teller
We're happy as we can be, now I get my fortune told for free

Now I'm a happy fellow, well, I'm married to the fortune teller
We're happy as we can be and now I get my fortune told for free

Produced by Michael Barclay

First released on:
Various Artists - “Saturday Club” LP
(Decca LK 4583) UK, January 25, 1964

Great, great, great!!!

On which Stones LP is it officialy released?

On the "Gimme Shelter" album, released around 1970/71

It's on the album 'Got Live if you Want It' but despite the title it is the studio recording with added screams.

The original by Benny Spellman:




The version of The Who's famous Live at Leeds:




And how our boys interpreted the song:

Big hit down here for The Throb in the mid-sixties.....







ROCKMAN

Not one of their best early recordings, but still enjoyable!

It´s on More Hot Rocks - although see Aeppli 1963 0.008 for alternate mixes...[aeppli.ch]



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2010-05-25 12:11 by rootsman.

I think it was released on a 'Saturday Club' compliation here in the UK alongside the non-EP version of 'Posion Ivy'

This is a song that I heard around 1975 for the first time. Could have been on 'No Stone Unturned' and it's a great track from my favorite band...

This is a great early cover...I think it was supposed to be the b-side of their second single, b/w Poison Ivy, and for some reason never released.

Rumours that there is actual unreleased vinyl of this floating around for big $$'s

Great early Stones. Love the guitars.

It's so very lonely, you're 2,000 Light Years from home

Today, both versions is available on More Hot Rocks...

She said: When the next one arrives, you’ll be looking into her eyes

great song!



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treaclefingers
This is a great early cover...I think it was supposed to be the b-side of their second single, b/w Poison Ivy, and for some reason never released.

Rumours that there is actual unreleased vinyl of this floating around for big $$'s

Yes and yes. Copies were pressed and given to radio DJ's, apparently. I did read in a Record Collector book that a mint copy would be worth £400. This was about 10 years ago, so the value must be quite high now.

Hilarious lyrics, totally love this number!

yep: Allen Toussaint rollllls - this music has long legs!
thanks and praises Rolling Stones for hearing that and letting us hear it too

Mediocre cover of a great song.

Who's idea was it to add the fake crowd screams?

Here's a MUCH better version, IMO.





Drew

I am organising my digital Stones collection into chronological recording sessions and would welcome some help with the track "Fortune Teller".

Nico Zentgraf lists 2 versions of Fortune Teller both recorded on 09/07/1963;
Fortune Teller 1 (with repeated last verse and a harmonica)
Fortune Teller 2 (with single last verse and no harmonica)

Version 1 was released in 1964 on the Saturday Club LP and again in 1972 on More Hot Rocks LP.

Version 2 was released with over dubbed audience sound in 1966 on Got Live If You Want It LP.

So far so good..........BUT.......

Martin Elliot lists 3 versions, also all recorded on 09/07/1963 (and Martin gives track length);
Fortune Teller 1 (2.18) (Saturday Club LP and More Hot Rocks version which on his album lists is (2.16))
Fortune Teller (alt ver) (2.06)
Fortune Teller 2 (1.56) (1996 GLIYWI version)

So......my questions are ;

Is Nico correct (there are only 2 versions) ?

Is Martin correct (there are 3 versions) ?

If Martin is correct.......where can I find the alternate version (length 2.06)

Many thanks



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Kingbeebuzz

where can I find the alternate version (length 2.06)

Maybe this helps: "July 9 and around July 18, 1963 · Decca Studios, London" - [Aeppli.ch] and "0.010 August 26, 1963 · Single, Decca F11742 (UK, immediately withdrawn)" - [Aeppli.ch] , [Discogs.com] , [45cat.com] .

See also [www.dbboots.com] for 'Fortune Teller'.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-02-29 17:45 by Irix.

Thanks Irix.
It does indeed help a lot.
I had forgotten about Felix.

These are 'my' 4 versions:

Fortune Teller #1 (longer version with harmonica)
- cancelled 7 '' version
- Saturday Club - LP
- More Hot Rocks 2 - (Single CD)
- Collectors Only
- Stray Cats

Fortune Teller #2 (shorter version without harmonica)
- More Hot Rocks - Double CD

Fortune Teller #3 (live overdubs on #1)
- Got Live If You Want It - CD, first stereo remaster
- Have You Seen Your Mother Baby (Japanese 'Got Live If You Want It') - LP, stereo
- Gimme Shelter - LP (audience mix sounds slightly different)

Fortune Teller #4 (live overdubs on #2)
- Got Live If You Want It - CD, new mix, mono



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#1 and #2 are not both on Collectors Only.

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DandelionPowderman
#1 and #2 are not both on Collectors Only.

Sorry, copy-paste error. It's of course #1 only.

If this can help, I have an acetate with Poison Ivy versions 2 and 3 plus a Fortune Teller dated 14.9.1963 and from DECCA West Hampstead Studios.
According to my info, that day the group was not in London: it might be the date that ALO and Eric Easton re-work/ post-produced the song.
The side of the acetate with FT reads Andrew+Eric engraved.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-03-01 19:55 by wiredallnight.

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Kingbeebuzz
I am organising my digital Stones collection into chronological recording sessions and would welcome some help with the track "Fortune Teller".

Nico Zentgraf lists 2 versions of Fortune Teller both recorded on 09/07/1963;
Fortune Teller 1 (with repeated last verse and a harmonica)
Fortune Teller 2 (with single last verse and no harmonica)

Version 1 was released in 1964 on the Saturday Club LP and again in 1972 on More Hot Rocks LP.

Version 2 was released with over dubbed audience sound in 1966 on Got Live If You Want It LP.

So far so good..........BUT.......

Martin Elliot lists 3 versions, also all recorded on 09/07/1963 (and Martin gives track length);
Fortune Teller 1 (2.18) (Saturday Club LP and More Hot Rocks version which on his album lists is (2.16))
Fortune Teller (alt ver) (2.06)
Fortune Teller 2 (1.56) (1996 GLIYWI version)

So......my questions are ;

Is Nico correct (there are only 2 versions) ?

Is Martin correct (there are 3 versions) ?

If Martin is correct.......where can I find the alternate version (length 2.06)

Many thanks

The Complete Works database lists all four variations of Forune Teller:

630709A 9th July: London, West Hampstead, Decca Studios. Producer: Michael
Barclay. Sound engineer: Gus Dudgeon.
- Fortune Teller I (Allen Toussaint) -cancelled 7“ version, released on
Saturday Club-compilation (see 640125A)
- Fortune Teller II (Allen Toussaint) -More Hot Rocks-CD-version; without
repeat of last verse and without harmonica

661011A mid-October (ca. between 11th - 20th): London, IBC Studios. Producer:
Andrew Oldham. Sound engineer: Glyn Johns. Recording of overdubs
for the upcoming live album Got Live If You Want It! Also:
- Fortune Teller III (Allen Toussaint) -"live"-mix of version I (630709A),
overdubbed with audience backing for Got Live If You Want It!
- Fortune Teller IV (Allen Toussaint) -"live"-mix of version II (630709A),
overdubbed with audience backing for Got Live If You Want It! (abkco-version)

[nzentgraf.de]

N

Thank you to everyone for the info.

It is now clear that on 9th July 1963 the Stones recorded only 2 versions of Fortune Teller ( a 2.16 take and a 1.56 take).

Both of these had audience overdubs added in 1966.

However...............the original question still stands......Martin Elliott lists 3 takes on 9th July 1963.......what is the 2.06 take ? or has Martin added this take mistakenly and it is actually an audience overdub version ?

My guess is that there are only 2 original tracks from 9th July 1963 takes.

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Kingbeebuzz

what is the 2.06 take ? or has Martin added this take mistakenly and it is actually an audience overdub version ?

Maybe the 2:06 take could be this one: "Alternate version (recorded live at Kingsway Studios in 1963)" - [www.dbboots.com] . It can be found in the StonesVault - [iorr.org] . But the info on that bootleg could be wrong.

You could also try to contact Martin Elliott - [StonesSessions.com] .



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2024-03-04 11:30 by Irix.

Good thinking Irix (why didn't I think of that !).

I will try to contact Martin and post what I find out.