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dewlover
"" Keith looks like Johnny Depp in “Pirates of the Caribbean”. ""
erm, isn't it the other way around?


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dcba
One (serious) question : where is Daryl? Does he travel with the entourage, at the back of the plane, like any other hired hand?


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Thanks for making the effort to translate the story for our pleasure.

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Wanton Witch of the Côte
Thanks. When I first read the title I thought uh oh, this is about the STP tour and if that's the title of her book...

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boogie1969
Wonderful story, but she paints a picture of the modern day Stones that sounds bleak, boring, and depressing.
Why can't Keith tell her how to make his f-ucking drink himself, why does it have to go through the bodyguard? If she screws it up, does the bodyguard yell at her, by way of Keith, too?
I guess the days of talking to the common folk (ordering room service in C.S. Blues) is over for these guys.
A curtain separating Mick and Charlie from Ron and Keith?
You wonder why they don't show up together to promote things, like the Exile film in Cannes this year? There's your answer.
Nice.
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boogie1969
Why can't Keith tell her how to make his f-ucking drink himself, why does it have to go through the bodyguard? If she screws it up, does the bodyguard yell at her, by way of Keith, too?

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swiss
dear SwayStones - thank you do much for translating and posting -- fun read!Quote
boogie1969
Why can't Keith tell her how to make his f-ucking drink himself, why does it have to go through the bodyguard? If she screws it up, does the bodyguard yell at her, by way of Keith, too?
I remember reading that Keith doesn't like to be touched by people (unless he touches them first), which I totally understand given that many people probably transgress boundaries all the time, and want to touch him. To me, this going through the bodyguard is similar. Whereas, for us, an air hostess would simply take our instructions for making a drink more or less in stride (unless we had intricate instructions, in which case they might covertly roll their eyes). But basically it would be a straightforward transaction of placing and order and getting what we want. In the case of Keith, it would become an opportunity for yet another person to try to engage in conversation with him. He just wants to sit on the plane and have his drink. And have the drink the way he wants it. And not have to have for the 16th million time and "amusing" conversation about how eccentric his request is.
I don't blame him. It must be increasingly exhausting to have wherever you are, whatever you're doing, to encounter people who transgress boundaries, touch you, talk to you, be overly personal with you. Especially if you're someone who considers himself a nice, guy, as Keith does. far more than he did in the '70s when the Stones rep was being as rude as possible.
It's nothing personal to this particular "air hostess." It's just a matter of ensuring that any ooohing, aaahing, commenting about his personal tastes happen off his radar screen. It's just not interesting for him to engage on this same stuff again and again. He just wants his drink not a conversation. Can we blame him?
Last thing - do you have an unusual name? or an accent? or an unusual tattoo? If so, you know what it's like every day for people to ask you over and over the same exact question. For them, it's brand new and novel. For you, you sometimes are up for this same convo, and sometimes you just don't want to. I don't have an unusual name, accent, or tattoo. But I've been with guys who have all of the above. And it's astonishing just being with them hearing strangers think they can just comment on them and the person is expected to be really engaging and amused. And these aren't even famous people.
So again -- I applaud Keith (and the rest of them) for putting whatever boundaries between them and anyone they need to!
- swiss
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boogie1969
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swiss
dear SwayStones - thank you do much for translating and posting -- fun read!Quote
boogie1969
Why can't Keith tell her how to make his f-ucking drink himself, why does it have to go through the bodyguard? If she screws it up, does the bodyguard yell at her, by way of Keith, too?
I remember reading that Keith doesn't like to be touched by people (unless he touches them first), which I totally understand given that many people probably transgress boundaries all the time, and want to touch him. To me, this going through the bodyguard is similar. Whereas, for us, an air hostess would simply take our instructions for making a drink more or less in stride (unless we had intricate instructions, in which case they might covertly roll their eyes). But basically it would be a straightforward transaction of placing and order and getting what we want. In the case of Keith, it would become an opportunity for yet another person to try to engage in conversation with him. He just wants to sit on the plane and have his drink. And have the drink the way he wants it. And not have to have for the 16th million time and "amusing" conversation about how eccentric his request is.
I don't blame him. It must be increasingly exhausting to have wherever you are, whatever you're doing, to encounter people who transgress boundaries, touch you, talk to you, be overly personal with you. Especially if you're someone who considers himself a nice, guy, as Keith does. far more than he did in the '70s when the Stones rep was being as rude as possible.
It's nothing personal to this particular "air hostess." It's just a matter of ensuring that any ooohing, aaahing, commenting about his personal tastes happen off his radar screen. It's just not interesting for him to engage on this same stuff again and again. He just wants his drink not a conversation. Can we blame him?
Last thing - do you have an unusual name? or an accent? or an unusual tattoo? If so, you know what it's like every day for people to ask you over and over the same exact question. For them, it's brand new and novel. For you, you sometimes are up for this same convo, and sometimes you just don't want to. I don't have an unusual name, accent, or tattoo. But I've been with guys who have all of the above. And it's astonishing just being with them hearing strangers think they can just comment on them and the person is expected to be really engaging and amused. And these aren't even famous people.
So again -- I applaud Keith (and the rest of them) for putting whatever boundaries between them and anyone they need to!
- swiss
I see your point, and I understand some people don't like being touched and may even have a deep-seated phobia towards that. But flight attendants and others in the service industry are professionals, and know that they are not to get too casual or personal in their interactions, particularly with high-level clients. Often times, certain individuals in an organization are picked for a particular assignment, like the one described here, because they are known to be able to do their job properly regardless of who may be involved. They know not to cross particular boundaries, and to let a person like Keith "just sit on the plane and enjoy his drink". They don't last very long if they annoy anyone. It almost sounds like that is the case here, like this particular attendant, along with other crew, may have been chosen for their ability to be discrete and professional with so called VIPs.
While they may roll their eyes at you and I, they know the difference between an average person like us and a celebrity like Keith. They wouldn't keep their job for very long if they didn't act properly every time they encountered someone famous.
I think her description of her time with them and how things progressed, how it wasn't until later on that she got friendly with them, got pictures, etc., bears this out. If Keith was so friendly at the end, he could at least order his drink himself at the beginning. My feelings on that are not going to change.
Part of what I said also ties in with the whole set-up, the curtain, Jagger's way of being so particular about everything, having underlings speak for them. They sound so uptight, miserable, and, some of them, high-handed towards those around them.
And I do happen to have an unusual name, at least judging from most people's reaction to it. My name is Duke, and if I had a dime for every time I've been asked if that's my real name, I wouldn't be wasting my time on here. I've also had to endure people singing Duke of Earl to me, make references to John Wayne, and had to endure insulting remarks by inbred hillbillies who are not fans of the Duke University Blue Devils (I live in North Carolina). None of which have anything to do with why I was given the name. So I do know what it's like to go through the same round of crap every time I meet someone.
The fact is, the Stones have to wipe their own ass and put their pants on one leg at a time just like everyone does. Maybe if they remembered this from time to time, they could sit together without having a curtain between them. And they could order their own damn drink.
I see your point. And also appreciate your name story, Duke.