I just finished reading the Keith interview in the new Guitar World, and he says the rumors of Mick Taylor doing new guitar overdubs on Exile are completely false. He says if it happened he would know and it did not happen, that he and Jagger had no contact with MT for years. He did say a number of positive things about Mick Taylor throughout the interview and even a few positive things about Jagger believe it or not. Not to mention, high compliments to Bill Wyman's bass playing, saying that he didn't realize how good he was all those years and was blown away listening through the unreleased songs.

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Strange, I'm sure I read somewhere that Mick met MT recently

Someone said they asked MT not long ago and he confirmed he overdubbed on one track (likely PMS I reckon). Maybe Keith didn't get the memo.

It's already a little ridiculous with all this contradicting information.
If MT didn't contribute, why didn't Don Was say that clearly, instead of just a vague "won't confirm, won't deny" comment?
Or, if MT did contribute, why is Keith saying this?

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It's already a little ridiculous with all this contradicting information.
If MT didn't contribute, why didn't Don Was say that clearly, instead of just a vague "won't confirm, won't deny" comment?
Or, if MT did contribute, why is Keith saying this?

Because the history of the band has proven time and again that rumours and speculation
are the best way to get publicity. And publicity gets your albums sold.

After listening to the yet-to-be-released tracks I am confident the only guitar additions are Jagger's acoustic. I did not hear any MT or KR overdubs.

And if electric guitar overdubs would have been done it would have been done by people whom can do it much faster and better than any of the Stones, like they did with the Austin concert for example.

Mathijs

marcovandereijk..Rumours and Speculations people make a living out of it.The Sun newspaper people will be up bright and early again today.

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After listening to the yet-to-be-released tracks I am confident the only guitar additions are Jagger's acoustic. I did not hear any MT or KR overdubs.

And if electric guitar overdubs would have been done it would have been done by people whom can do it much faster and better than any of the Stones, like they did with the Austin concert for example.

Mathijs

The truth can hurt so much..

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After listening to the yet-to-be-released tracks I am confident the only guitar additions are Jagger's acoustic. I did not hear any MT or KR overdubs.

And if electric guitar overdubs would have been done it would have been done by people whom can do it much faster and better than any of the Stones, like they did with the Austin concert for example.

Mathijs

Never knew that. Do you know who played the overdubs for the Austin Concert? Overdubbing live concerts is something I really don't like. I know it's something that's done like forever. But if it's also done by other musicians, it's even more ridiculous.

I never watch the Austin show because these overdubs are a brutal sign of the band's decline. After the presentation we will know if Taylor did overdubs over not, but asking other musicians to do overdubs would be insane, then it would not be a Stonesalbum anymore. Would it make sense to announce a rerelease of Let It Bleed that has been recorded recently by other musicians?

I beginning to think the only option for the Stones to continue is to bring back both Taylors.............MICK and DICK !

BOTH Keith and Ronnie seem to be living in a parallel universe with the endless B.S. they talk. I'm very very sad about this,but I can't see a future,so the archives are the only way forward IMHO.

I really hope I'm proved wrong.

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After listening to the yet-to-be-released tracks I am confident the only guitar additions are Jagger's acoustic. I did not hear any MT or KR overdubs.

And if electric guitar overdubs would have been done it would have been done by people whom can do it much faster and better than any of the Stones, like they did with the Austin concert for example.

Mathijs

Keith stated in an interview prior to the release that he added acoustic guitar on the second half of a song, finishing it up 38 years later. I'm pretty sure the acoustic guitar on PMS is Jagger, though.

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After listening to the yet-to-be-released tracks I am confident the only guitar additions are Jagger's acoustic. I did not hear any MT or KR overdubs.

And if electric guitar overdubs would have been done it would have been done by people whom can do it much faster and better than any of the Stones, like they did with the Austin concert for example.

Mathijs

Never knew that. Do you know who played the overdubs for the Austin Concert? Overdubbing live concerts is something I really don't like. I know it's something that's done like forever. But if it's also done by other musicians, it's even more ridiculous.

They are even credited at the end of the concert movie... Pierre de Beauport (Keith's guitar tech) is credited. I don't know the name of the other person.

Keith is not entirely clued in on recent events. He's actually making himself look a bit silly by saying what he did to Guitar World.

if this is true i give up my RS fanship. It is ridiculous!!!!!!! Overdubbing DVDs with othjer guitar players??. RS go to Hell!! I´m not going to buy anything else in my life of this people. I have spent too much money for these clowns...............how can they admit this???????????

Regarding the Austin show: I thought the the additional recordings refered to camera work (like something from backstage). Do we have any hard evidence that it was guitar work by Pierre or is it just the usual naysayer tripe?

JumpingKentFlash

It looks like that it was true when speculated about Jagger probably asked to be hush-hush (to Keith) about Taylor's involement in the project... They did a good work: Keith is seemingly the only person planet not knowing about it! ><

Anyway, what actually is true or not, I don't have any resources to say anything. I have only heard two cuts by now. Is there any real document (other than Don Was's obscure statement that can be intrpreted any way) about Taylor's presence? Or are we just wittnessing one more urban myth concerning The Rolling Stones to have born?

- Doxa



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Maybe that coconut tree was much taller ...

RS go to Hell!! I´m not going to buy anything else in my life of this people. I have spent too much money for these clowns...............how can they admit this???????????

Geeeeeeeeeeeeez wait till KeithNacho finds out about Churchill & Norman Shelley



ROCKMAN

I'm a hard fan of these people. They are performing worse everytime!. And if it is true the Austin show rumour................. I'll burn all my guitars!!!!!!!

I know fire-wood's expensive now-days but that's redickuless.....



ROCKMAN

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RS go to Hell!! I´m not going to buy anything else in my life of this people. I have spent too much money for these clowns...............how can they admit this???????????

I didn't since 1976.

amsterdamned..When Keiths new book comes out it might mention about the accident in Fiji and his time in Hospital.I would say his Neurosurgeon Andrew Law will be one of the first to get a signed copy.

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amsterdamned..When Keiths new book comes out it might mention about the accident in Fiji and his time in Hospital.I would say his Neurosurgeon Andrew Law will be one of the first to get a signed copy.

Sure, I'am glad he survived it.

>> He's actually making himself look a bit silly by saying what he did to Guitar World. <<

almost as silly as Mick J apparently forgetting in at least one interview that there was an album between LIB and Exile,
and saying Exile was "the first album Mick T really played on"

the moral is: people are mistaken sometimes, even in public. so what

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>> He's actually making himself look a bit silly by saying what he did to Guitar World. <<

almost as silly as Mick J apparently forgetting in at least one interview that there was an album between LIB and Exile,
and saying Exile was "the first album Mick T really played on"

the moral is: people are mistaken sometimes, even in public. so what

Taylor played lead and ryhtm on PMS,one can argue about it,but I'am not going to argue with Keith Lawyers.

Okay, we all know PMS and a bootleg of I AINT SIGNIFYING. Has another official new track been leaked yet? There was talk that FOLLOWING THE RIVER would be coming out about 2 weeks prior to the release, but nothing yet to the best of my knowledge.

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>> He's actually making himself look a bit silly by saying what he did to Guitar World. <<

almost as silly as Mick J apparently forgetting in at least one interview that there was an album between LIB and Exile,
and saying Exile was "the first album Mick T really played on"

the moral is: people are mistaken sometimes, even in public. so what

I agree with the moral but I find those two quotes belonging to a different rank. I find it funny if the guy "forgets" mentioning a name of classic album released some 40 years ago in the middle of hectic period of creativity and a run of masterpieces ("from which album it was, Bill?"), or what happened to be the specific album a certain memeber was first on, etc. - that's charming - but denying the presence of an old band member in a session happened last year sounds strange. He really didn't knew Taylor being around, or he doesn't want to admit it. Or Taylor wasn't there. I don't take sides here, but the whole thing sounds odd.

- Doxa



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Regarding the Austin show: I thought the the additional recordings refered to camera work (like something from backstage). Do we have any hard evidence that it was guitar work by Pierre or is it just the usual naysayer tripe?

Camera work??

It clearly says 'additional recordings by'on the DVD booklet and the two players credited (Beauport and David Rouze) are both guitar technicians. Pierre has even played on Stones studio recordings before, so I cant see how much clearer they can make it. Plus, its quite obvious when watching the Austin show that there are studio overdubs added. Beauport is Keith's guitar tech. Rouze is a bassist who is also Mick's guitar tech.

At least they were up front about it on that occasion and as its been discussed before, why people are even doubting or debating it now is a bit odd.

As for the MT overdubs on Exile. Was & Jagger were evasive about it and refused to confirm or deny it (which is as good as an admission that it happened in my book), Keith says that not only did Taylor not do any overdubs but the band have had no contact with him for years - and yet Taylor says that he overdubbed a guitar part on one song.

If that doesnt speak volumes about the way the Stones work as a band these days (if they're STILL a band) I dont know what does. Why all the secrecy and contradictory statements? You'd think that if they were going to feed BS to their fans and the media, they'd at least try and be consistent aboout getting their stories straight. Doesn't say much for Keith's involvement in the new Exile either IMO.



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There are no guitar techs credited on Live Licks either, but when listening to the two Open G-guitars on CYHMK, I'm pretty sure one of them (left) isn't played by Keith, and Ronnie plays the song in standard tuning...