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Kent, I don't know that he's a great guitar player any more. I'm not sure that he ever was. Great musician and unique talent, yes. I know that he has been a musical embarrasment on too many occasions in recent tours.
Ron may be a better social fit than Brian or MickT. that's principally why he's in the Stones and why they've stayed together. But no question in my mind when the Stones were at their peak live musically.
What I find odd is how so many can moralise about Ron's reputed behaviour while I assume most of the same people love the Midnight Rambler, a song which it's hard not to associate with sexual violence - in fact which owes its existence to it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-12-04 01:00 by Four Stone Walls.
Yeah,correct...and the Berlin Wall...AIDS...Sympathy For The Devil...Jack The Ripper...Gimme Shelter...?
Man,what the hell are you talking about ?
Too hard for you to devide fiction from reality ?
Absolutely disgusting behavior by Ron Wood.
I guess some of the same people on this thread will now say "Wait a minute.. we can't believe this guy.. don't jump to conclusions.."
Ron Wood has sunk to the level of pond scum.
Well to me it's not so far fetched to have Mick T's name in this discussions, for a couple of reasons. The first one is that Ronnie doesn't seem to be mentally fit for an agonising Stones trip round the world during 2 years of time. If he should be on the wagoon then Mick would have to have a couple of guys watching Ronnie constantly for alcohol abuse.
The second reason is that Mick T knows the Stones music and their roots. He can play guitar like ever before. Mick T is a Rolling Stones in abscense in my mind. He would carry the burden of being in the Stones better now than he did when he joined in 1969. He was too young and now he's a grown up man with which I guess far better values than beating up a young woman.
He will fast adapt to the Stones music again. Don't think he ever forgot it.
So let's have Mick T in the band and leave Ronnie in the clinic, so he can straighten out his life and become a great rock and roller again. Because in these days he is not. And the demand for a great new Stones record and tour is too big to be spoiled by lawsuits and domestic problem.
I don't mean to be harsh on Ronnie but it's time he cleaned up the shit he's in right now and come back to a great life, cause he, his kids and Jo needs it to be that way. And Kat needs to get away from this and go find a younger guy who can treasure her for other reasons than Ronnie does.
Been Stoned since 1964 and still am!
Yeah - she should dump his ass. He shouldn't be with anyone right now - he should be in a clinic getting his shit together.
He probably knows this - and realizes how bad he's effing up - which might be making him drink even more. Alcoholics often take out their self loathing out on other people.
Wasn't looking too good, but I was feeling real well.
Hi Cindy!
I know some people with the same problem as Ronnie goes thru. Not many of them have had the chance to get into a solid rehab with great specialists to work with them. Now Ronnie has got that chance and really should admit his problem to himself, because that's the first and biggest step back to a healthy life!
His life doesn't get better by leaving a family and a secure life with them in a lovely, comforting environment. I feel really sad for Ronnie, but at the same time, he has been in rehab before and got back from the abuse. Now it seems that he has been letting go of everything, even the job in the Greatest Rock and Roll Band. It seems he just doesn't care anymore. That's why something needs to be done!
Been Stoned since 1964 and still am!
That's a good call Gazza. I knew from the moment this thread fired up there would be shouts of 'that just doesn't seem like Ronnie. Never Ronnie. Laughing, joking Ronnie.'
Speaking as someone who works in the field of abuse (self & of others)...don't be so fkn nieve folks!
Like the neighbour next door...oh,he was such a quiet person. Kept himself to himself...
Some people on this site are sounding like they are personal friends of Ronnie and have a tap in to his soul and psyche!
Well if you can't see what needs to be done here, then I might be "Worried about you". Isn't it obvious what needs to be done?
Been Stoned since 1964 and still am!
Midnight Rambler was based on the REAL case of the Boston Strangler - and Jagger got some of the lyrics directly from this case -
I know I'm being a bit lateral - but we do love the song largely because of its yrics - and the highpoint was Jagger's onstage enactment of a vicious belting of a woman btw -powerful esp with Keith's rhythm 'lashings' - kind of liberating - releasing (safely?) something that is probably in us all? -
Made me wonder.
OK - back to the Tabloid World ......
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Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
black n blue
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Date: December 4, 2009 00:33
Maybe he couldn't take her on top anymore. Probably trying to sleep the old man.
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
tussler
()
Date: December 4, 2009 00:34
Whoever who does it, it`s the same crime, same law and same punishment. We have to wait and see what`s happen. Has he done, well, then he deserve punishment like everybody else.
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
Silver Dagger
()
Date: December 4, 2009 00:38
According to the Associated Press report it happened openly in the high street...not even behind closed doors. The guy was be in a really bad way. One would hope that Keith and Mick will be on the blower to sort him out. There's no one else around to check him into rehab although I guess deep down Jo still cares for the father of her children.
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
TheKingBee
()
Date: December 4, 2009 00:41
First of all, why does Mick Taylor always come up when people talk about Ronnie? Seriously, I'm fed up with all this talk about Mick Taylor.
As to the case in discussion, why does (almost) everyone jump to the conclusion that Ronnie even touched Kat and is gonna ruin the possible 2010 tour? I doubt that none of us was there when it happened. And why does anyone assume that Ronnie was drunk at the time? Nowhere I've read does it say that Ronnie was under the influence of alcohol?
Until all the facts are out and everyone knows what really happened, I don't think none of us should assume that this or that happened. I would let people outside the Rolling Stones sphere judge without knowing. We, the Rolling Stones fans, have at least some idea of how Ronnie is as a person.
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As to the case in discussion, why does (almost) everyone jump to the conclusion that Ronnie even touched Kat and is gonna ruin the possible 2010 tour? I doubt that none of us was there when it happened. And why does anyone assume that Ronnie was drunk at the time? Nowhere I've read does it say that Ronnie was under the influence of alcohol?
Until all the facts are out and everyone knows what really happened, I don't think none of us should assume that this or that happened. I would let people outside the Rolling Stones sphere judge without knowing. We, the Rolling Stones fans, have at least some idea of how Ronnie is as a person.
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"Hours like diamonds, don't let them waste
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
Shott
()
Date: December 4, 2009 00:51
kick him out of the band and bring on Waddie Wachtel.
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
Four Stone Walls
()
Date: December 4, 2009 00:53
Quote
JumpingKentFlash
Can I just put in my two cents to all those who eyes the opportunity of a Mick Taylor reunion: F*** OFF!!!!
Of course it's total shite from Woody if he beat up The Ek, but let's not start a whole frickin' campaign on all his bad sides. He's a Rolling motherhonkin' Stone. He's SUPPOSED to have bad sides, even though beating up your woman ain't a good thing. It's just not cool to bash his guitar playing from this incident. I mean come on: Brian shined up his girls rather neatly too, and I hear nobody judging his skills as a musician based on that. This whole thing is bad. Of course it is. You don't smack your girl up, and that's the end of it. You just don't do it no matter what. That's a big mistake and I'm very much against that sort of behaviour. Just don't get carried away and start the bloody Taylor-craving and call Woody an embarrasment. He's a great guitar player and you know it. That's why he's in The Stones, (and some people here need to realize that he and Brian fit better than Mick Taylor ever did).
Kent, I don't know that he's a great guitar player any more. I'm not sure that he ever was. Great musician and unique talent, yes. I know that he has been a musical embarrasment on too many occasions in recent tours.
Ron may be a better social fit than Brian or MickT. that's principally why he's in the Stones and why they've stayed together. But no question in my mind when the Stones were at their peak live musically.
What I find odd is how so many can moralise about Ron's reputed behaviour while I assume most of the same people love the Midnight Rambler, a song which it's hard not to associate with sexual violence - in fact which owes its existence to it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-12-04 01:00 by Four Stone Walls.
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
Cafaro
()
Date: December 4, 2009 01:08
We don't know the real story yet and may never. things that go on between a couple are strange things indeed. Really, we should reserve judgement until we know what happened, if anything.
As for a Stones tour............enough already!!! They aren;t even in the studio and there is no talk of another greatist hits package so what will they tour behind???
I seriously doubt they will tour in 2010.
As for a Stones tour............enough already!!! They aren;t even in the studio and there is no talk of another greatist hits package so what will they tour behind???
I seriously doubt they will tour in 2010.
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: December 4, 2009 01:11
Perhaps we should all face facts and acknowledge that the guitarists can't play anymore, Ron Wood can't FUNCTION any more, and there seems no point in another stadium tour, which will only harm their legacy. It gives me no pleasure to say this.
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
shortfatfanny
()
Date: December 4, 2009 01:29
Quote
Four Stone Walls
What I find odd is how so many can moralise about Ron's reputed behaviour while I assume most of the same people love the Midnight Rambler, a song which it's hard not to associate with sexual violence - in fact which owes its existence to it.
Yeah,correct...and the Berlin Wall...AIDS...Sympathy For The Devil...Jack The Ripper...Gimme Shelter...?
Man,what the hell are you talking about ?
Too hard for you to devide fiction from reality ?
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
LastStopThisTown
()
Date: December 4, 2009 01:40
daily mail article
doesn't sound good:
"Former health centre manager Phillip Legge and his wife Celine told how they were woken by the pair arguing outside their house on the High Street in Claygate, Surrey, on Wednesday night. 'We had just gone to bed at about
10.45pm when we heard this man shouting and
screaming at the top of his voice,' Mr Legge said.
'He was shouting, "You are a f***ing b****" and then "You are a f***ing w****" and it was really loud.
'I could hear a woman screaming for him to leave her alone and initially thought it was two people just having a row.
'But the screaming went on and on and I went downstairs and then out into the street.
'It was then I saw this man dragging a woman down the road.
'She had been on the floor by a shop-front to begin with and he was towering over her screaming abuse into her face. He had really viciously turned on her.'
Mr Legge, 30, said he did not recognise the Rolling Stone, who he said was dragging the woman by her coat collar along the ground before trying to take her handbag from her.
Mr Legge said he saw a struggle between the two while Wood appeared to be holding a cigarette.
'I heard her say: "Ouch...Stop it.'' He then pinned her up against a nearby wall and again he appeared to put his hands around her throat.'
Mr Legge shouted at the man, who turned and walked away, leaving the woman on the floor. 'I then went to her and got her into the house,' he said.
'She was in a terrible state. She was wearing shorts and a striped top and red coat but her hair was all over the place, her tights were ripped and torn and there were grazes all over her legs.' Mr Legge and his 20-year-old pregnant wife claim that as they waited for police to arrive Miss Ivanova spoke repeatedly to Wood on the phone, telling him: 'You're not even sorry - you can't even say sorry.'
They allege that Miss Ivanova smelled heavily of drink and told them that the couple had been to a restaurant in the village where they had rowed, with Miss Ivanova suggesting they should split up.
A waiter at the Bengal Lancer restaurant said Wood drank vodka there by himself before his girlfriend joined him..."
doesn't sound good:
"Former health centre manager Phillip Legge and his wife Celine told how they were woken by the pair arguing outside their house on the High Street in Claygate, Surrey, on Wednesday night. 'We had just gone to bed at about
10.45pm when we heard this man shouting and
screaming at the top of his voice,' Mr Legge said.
'He was shouting, "You are a f***ing b****" and then "You are a f***ing w****" and it was really loud.
'I could hear a woman screaming for him to leave her alone and initially thought it was two people just having a row.
'But the screaming went on and on and I went downstairs and then out into the street.
'It was then I saw this man dragging a woman down the road.
'She had been on the floor by a shop-front to begin with and he was towering over her screaming abuse into her face. He had really viciously turned on her.'
Mr Legge, 30, said he did not recognise the Rolling Stone, who he said was dragging the woman by her coat collar along the ground before trying to take her handbag from her.
Mr Legge said he saw a struggle between the two while Wood appeared to be holding a cigarette.
'I heard her say: "Ouch...Stop it.'' He then pinned her up against a nearby wall and again he appeared to put his hands around her throat.'
Mr Legge shouted at the man, who turned and walked away, leaving the woman on the floor. 'I then went to her and got her into the house,' he said.
'She was in a terrible state. She was wearing shorts and a striped top and red coat but her hair was all over the place, her tights were ripped and torn and there were grazes all over her legs.' Mr Legge and his 20-year-old pregnant wife claim that as they waited for police to arrive Miss Ivanova spoke repeatedly to Wood on the phone, telling him: 'You're not even sorry - you can't even say sorry.'
They allege that Miss Ivanova smelled heavily of drink and told them that the couple had been to a restaurant in the village where they had rowed, with Miss Ivanova suggesting they should split up.
A waiter at the Bengal Lancer restaurant said Wood drank vodka there by himself before his girlfriend joined him..."
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
stoned in washington dc
()
Date: December 4, 2009 01:51
Quote
LastStopThisTown
daily mail article
doesn't sound good:
"Former health centre manager Phillip Legge and his wife Celine told how they were woken by the pair arguing outside their house on the High Street in Claygate, Surrey, on Wednesday night. 'We had just gone to bed at about
10.45pm when we heard this man shouting and
screaming at the top of his voice,' Mr Legge said.
'He was shouting, "You are a f***ing b****" and then "You are a f***ing w****" and it was really loud.
'I could hear a woman screaming for him to leave her alone and initially thought it was two people just having a row.
'But the screaming went on and on and I went downstairs and then out into the street.
'It was then I saw this man dragging a woman down the road.
'She had been on the floor by a shop-front to begin with and he was towering over her screaming abuse into her face. He had really viciously turned on her.'
Mr Legge, 30, said he did not recognise the Rolling Stone, who he said was dragging the woman by her coat collar along the ground before trying to take her handbag from her.
Mr Legge said he saw a struggle between the two while Wood appeared to be holding a cigarette.
'I heard her say: "Ouch...Stop it.'' He then pinned her up against a nearby wall and again he appeared to put his hands around her throat.'
Mr Legge shouted at the man, who turned and walked away, leaving the woman on the floor. 'I then went to her and got her into the house,' he said.
'She was in a terrible state. She was wearing shorts and a striped top and red coat but her hair was all over the place, her tights were ripped and torn and there were grazes all over her legs.' Mr Legge and his 20-year-old pregnant wife claim that as they waited for police to arrive Miss Ivanova spoke repeatedly to Wood on the phone, telling him: 'You're not even sorry - you can't even say sorry.'
They allege that Miss Ivanova smelled heavily of drink and told them that the couple had been to a restaurant in the village where they had rowed, with Miss Ivanova suggesting they should split up.
A waiter at the Bengal Lancer restaurant said Wood drank vodka there by himself before his girlfriend joined him..."
Absolutely disgusting behavior by Ron Wood.
I guess some of the same people on this thread will now say "Wait a minute.. we can't believe this guy.. don't jump to conclusions.."
Ron Wood has sunk to the level of pond scum.
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
Fan Since 1964
()
Date: December 4, 2009 02:09
Quote
TheKingBee
First of all, why does Mick Taylor always come up when people talk about Ronnie? Seriously, I'm fed up with all this talk about Mick Taylor.
As to the case in discussion, why does (almost) everyone jump to the conclusion that Ronnie even touched Kat and is gonna ruin the possible 2010 tour? I doubt that none of us was there when it happened. And why does anyone assume that Ronnie was drunk at the time? Nowhere I've read does it say that Ronnie was under the influence of alcohol?
Until all the facts are out and everyone knows what really happened, I don't think none of us should assume that this or that happened. I would let people outside the Rolling Stones sphere judge without knowing. We, the Rolling Stones fans, have at least some idea of how Ronnie is as a person.
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"Hours like diamonds, don't let them waste
Well to me it's not so far fetched to have Mick T's name in this discussions, for a couple of reasons. The first one is that Ronnie doesn't seem to be mentally fit for an agonising Stones trip round the world during 2 years of time. If he should be on the wagoon then Mick would have to have a couple of guys watching Ronnie constantly for alcohol abuse.
The second reason is that Mick T knows the Stones music and their roots. He can play guitar like ever before. Mick T is a Rolling Stones in abscense in my mind. He would carry the burden of being in the Stones better now than he did when he joined in 1969. He was too young and now he's a grown up man with which I guess far better values than beating up a young woman.
He will fast adapt to the Stones music again. Don't think he ever forgot it.
So let's have Mick T in the band and leave Ronnie in the clinic, so he can straighten out his life and become a great rock and roller again. Because in these days he is not. And the demand for a great new Stones record and tour is too big to be spoiled by lawsuits and domestic problem.
I don't mean to be harsh on Ronnie but it's time he cleaned up the shit he's in right now and come back to a great life, cause he, his kids and Jo needs it to be that way. And Kat needs to get away from this and go find a younger guy who can treasure her for other reasons than Ronnie does.
Been Stoned since 1964 and still am!
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
Blueranger
()
Date: December 4, 2009 02:38
Taylor, Taylor, Taylor...
I saw Mick Taylor a couple of years back. Seldom have I seen something so sad. He was drunk, played wrong and was completely out of it.
If The Stones took HIM back, they would sink without a trace. He just can't cut it anymore.
Sorry folks!
I saw Mick Taylor a couple of years back. Seldom have I seen something so sad. He was drunk, played wrong and was completely out of it.
If The Stones took HIM back, they would sink without a trace. He just can't cut it anymore.
Sorry folks!
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
CindyC
()
Date: December 4, 2009 02:42
Quote
Fan Since 1964
And Kat needs to get away from this and go find a younger guy who can treasure her for other reasons than Ronnie does.
Yeah - she should dump his ass. He shouldn't be with anyone right now - he should be in a clinic getting his shit together.
He probably knows this - and realizes how bad he's effing up - which might be making him drink even more. Alcoholics often take out their self loathing out on other people.
Wasn't looking too good, but I was feeling real well.
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
TheKingBee
()
Date: December 4, 2009 02:51
I doubt rehab will do him any good, how many times have he been to rehab now? Now a days it's in and out in 30 days or something. It's like rehab (for celebrities) has gotten popular or something.
And I doubt that Mick T will be a good replacement. Is he in a shape that will allow him to tour for 2 years? Can he play anymore? And I doubt that Mick J will have him back after Mick T's complaining about money and credits.
And for these eyewitnesses, how far away do you have to be to not see that the guy was Ronnie Wood? And according to the Daily Mail Kat wouldn't press charges. I hope Ronnie dumps her, I wouldn't be with someone that gets pissed off for trying to fix my relationship with my daughter or trying to get me to sign my house over in her name.
Not that I would ever, ever let violence against women be acceptable. But I guess any word in support of Ronnie at this moment will be seen as a "oh, you think violence against women are okay".
And I doubt that Mick T will be a good replacement. Is he in a shape that will allow him to tour for 2 years? Can he play anymore? And I doubt that Mick J will have him back after Mick T's complaining about money and credits.
And for these eyewitnesses, how far away do you have to be to not see that the guy was Ronnie Wood? And according to the Daily Mail Kat wouldn't press charges. I hope Ronnie dumps her, I wouldn't be with someone that gets pissed off for trying to fix my relationship with my daughter or trying to get me to sign my house over in her name.
Not that I would ever, ever let violence against women be acceptable. But I guess any word in support of Ronnie at this moment will be seen as a "oh, you think violence against women are okay".
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
Fan Since 1964
()
Date: December 4, 2009 02:52
Quote
CindyC
Quote
Fan Since 1964
And Kat needs to get away from this and go find a younger guy who can treasure her for other reasons than Ronnie does.
Yeah - she should dump his ass. He shouldn't be with anyone right now - he should be in a clinic getting his shit together.
He probably knows this - and realizes how bad he's effing up - which might be making him drink even more. Alcoholics often take out their self loathing out on other people.
Hi Cindy!
I know some people with the same problem as Ronnie goes thru. Not many of them have had the chance to get into a solid rehab with great specialists to work with them. Now Ronnie has got that chance and really should admit his problem to himself, because that's the first and biggest step back to a healthy life!
His life doesn't get better by leaving a family and a secure life with them in a lovely, comforting environment. I feel really sad for Ronnie, but at the same time, he has been in rehab before and got back from the abuse. Now it seems that he has been letting go of everything, even the job in the Greatest Rock and Roll Band. It seems he just doesn't care anymore. That's why something needs to be done!
Been Stoned since 1964 and still am!
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
dtklamf
()
Date: December 4, 2009 03:03
I ussually never post because I pretty much dont care about peoples personal lives, even when they are celebrities or high profile people.
But I am really sick and tired of all this bashing against Ronnie and that people want Mick Taylor back.
Deal with it, this is what you are getting.
I just cant believe all you guys are trying to advise Ronnie like you were some old pal of him.
This guy, Fan since 1964, what needs to be done?
Bringing Mick Taylor to tour will make you happy? Well, I am sure that wont happen.
Ronnie checking into rehab? That might happen.
Ronnie being kicked off the band? Not going to happen.
I might understand that you feel ... concerned ... about what is going on.
But stop being such an idiot trying to pretend you are so worried about Ronnie.
I am not buying it.
But I am really sick and tired of all this bashing against Ronnie and that people want Mick Taylor back.
Deal with it, this is what you are getting.
I just cant believe all you guys are trying to advise Ronnie like you were some old pal of him.
This guy, Fan since 1964, what needs to be done?
Bringing Mick Taylor to tour will make you happy? Well, I am sure that wont happen.
Ronnie checking into rehab? That might happen.
Ronnie being kicked off the band? Not going to happen.
I might understand that you feel ... concerned ... about what is going on.
But stop being such an idiot trying to pretend you are so worried about Ronnie.
I am not buying it.
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
ROLLINGSTONE
()
Date: December 4, 2009 03:05
Quote
Gazza
Quote
The Stones
Ronnie is living the life of a true rocker. No doubt about that.
Assaulting women isn't something to aspire to if you want to be seen as a 'true rocker'. Its definitely something to aspire to if you just want to be a drunken @#$%&, however.
That's a good call Gazza. I knew from the moment this thread fired up there would be shouts of 'that just doesn't seem like Ronnie. Never Ronnie. Laughing, joking Ronnie.'
Speaking as someone who works in the field of abuse (self & of others)...don't be so fkn nieve folks!
Like the neighbour next door...oh,he was such a quiet person. Kept himself to himself...
Some people on this site are sounding like they are personal friends of Ronnie and have a tap in to his soul and psyche!
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
andy js
()
Date: December 4, 2009 03:05
Sadly Ronnie's only going one way. You can have all the money and rehab sessions you like, but unless you actually want to change yourself, its completely pointless
There's no good doing it for other people
There's no good doing it for other people
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
CBII
()
Date: December 4, 2009 03:10
If true, that's a real bummer man. If true, of course money will exchange hands and he will do no time but whooping a woman's head is not the thing to do. If true, he needs to get some serious help.
What this means to The Rolling Stones is anyones guess. I'm not going to speculate on that.
CBII
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What this means to The Rolling Stones is anyones guess. I'm not going to speculate on that.
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Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
stanbooth
()
Date: December 4, 2009 03:12
All of this is completely reprehensible behaviour even by rock star standards. For one he shouldn't be with this Lolita and two he's a serious alcoholic at 62 without the class or sense to keep it reasonably hidden. I think he's got to go and a new guitarist might light a fire under the rest of the band for the new tour. Why not a revolving cast of guitar players? Not an open audition but star turns from Wayne Perkins, Eric Clapton, Tom Verlaine, Robert Randolph, Jeff Beck and yes even the polarizing maestro Mick Taylor. Ronnie doesn't get it and never will, regardless of the charges before him.
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
Midnight Toker
()
Date: December 4, 2009 03:18
Woody needs to dump that little Russian gold digger ASAP. What is he thinking?
If he knocks her up, say goodbye to what $ he has left .Mel Gibson and Ron Wood need to wake up.
If he knocks her up, say goodbye to what $ he has left .Mel Gibson and Ron Wood need to wake up.
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
terry
()
Date: December 4, 2009 03:21
Im sure mick will be having words with ronnie
i wont be surprised to see ronnie get sacked
i wont be surprised to see ronnie get sacked
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
Eleanor Rigby
()
Date: December 4, 2009 03:22
assaulting a woman is the most gutless act a man can do...
terrible news....from a messed up person.
terrible news....from a messed up person.
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
Fan Since 1964
()
Date: December 4, 2009 03:24
Quote
dtklamf
I ussually never post because I pretty much dont care about peoples personal lives, even when they are celebrities or high profile people.
But I am really sick and tired of all this bashing against Ronnie and that people want Mick Taylor back.
Deal with it, this is what you are getting.
I just cant believe all you guys are trying to advise Ronnie like you were some old pal of him.
This guy, Fan since 1964, what needs to be done?
Bringing Mick Taylor to tour will make you happy? Well, I am sure that wont happen.
Ronnie checking into rehab? That might happen.
Ronnie being kicked off the band? Not going to happen.
I might understand that you feel ... concerned ... about what is going on.
But stop being such an idiot trying to pretend you are so worried about Ronnie.
I am not buying it.
Well if you can't see what needs to be done here, then I might be "Worried about you". Isn't it obvious what needs to be done?
Been Stoned since 1964 and still am!
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
Four Stone Walls
()
Date: December 4, 2009 03:33
Quote
shortfatfanny
Quote
Four Stone Walls
What I find odd is how so many can moralise about Ron's reputed behaviour while I assume most of the same people love the Midnight Rambler, a song which it's hard not to associate with sexual violence - in fact which owes its existence to it.
Yeah,correct...and the Berlin Wall...AIDS...Sympathy For The Devil...Jack The Ripper...Gimme Shelter...?
Man,what the hell are you talking about ?
Too hard for you to devide fiction from reality ?
Midnight Rambler was based on the REAL case of the Boston Strangler - and Jagger got some of the lyrics directly from this case -
I know I'm being a bit lateral - but we do love the song largely because of its yrics - and the highpoint was Jagger's onstage enactment of a vicious belting of a woman btw -powerful esp with Keith's rhythm 'lashings' - kind of liberating - releasing (safely?) something that is probably in us all? -
Made me wonder.
OK - back to the Tabloid World ......
Re: Ronnie arrested
Posted by:
DrPete
()
Date: December 4, 2009 03:37
What makes people think that Mick&Kieth would FIRE a self destructive guitarist?? ugh, Oh wait..........
Re: Ronnie arrested
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Date: December 4, 2009 04:23
It is so simple...He is a lost soul. Ronnie has been a druggie and alcoholic for way to many years. The rule is to be cool and not an obnoxious moron when you partake in that lifestyle. Something triggered him to officially leave his wife. We all know he has been sleeping with other women throughout the tours. But this time he has decided that Kat is better than Jo. His choice. But the walls have come tumbling down. The psychology is that by his choices and actions he has finally realized that he made a major F up and needs to get rid of that chick. The only way he knows is to drink and drug. If he was with Jo, it would be just another day. Things escalate when drunk and God knows how much intake of booze he had in himself. Get back to the Islands Man, Ronnie needs to really find himself. \m/
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