According to Hoffmann there's a different version of the well-known acoustic Stripped version of Wild Horses.
Supposed to be included on the bootleg 2CD 'Ich Möchte Euch Bis Nach Köln Hören' (VGP-216).
But this is not true if you watch the track list.


Anybody got a clue???



Hoffmann:



Track list:



Zentgraf:



Aeppli:

[www.iorr.org]



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

Thanks, SwayStones, I haven't heard it. Dead link.

Anybody care to share an mp3 of this Wild Horses tune from this VGP-216?

Anyway...
...does this mean that the royal Stones connaisseurs Hoffmann & Zentgraf & Aeppli are wrong...I must say...



Dieter, are you listening?

Nico, are you listening?

I thought there were two versions of Wild Horses from the Tokyo sessions : one from the album ENTIRE STRIPPED TV SPECIAL + TOKYO STRIPPED SESSIONS + BONUS TRACKS , the other (with electric guitars ) on the VGP 'ICH MÖCHTE EUCH BIS NACH KÖLN HÖREN' as a bonus track .

May be am I mistaken ?



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

[www.iorr.org]

Rockman, what ya say?

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Gintaine
[www.iorr.org]

Rockman, what ya say?

I guess Rockman must be asleep right now
Tired after the wild nights in Melbourne ?



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

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Gintaine
[www.iorr.org]

Rockman, what ya say?

I guess Rockman must be asleep right now
Tired after the wild nights in Melbourne ?

Rockman SLEEPS?


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

I am half amused & half disgusted to find out that the "Best French erudites " as they call themselves -vous allez vous reconnaitre -didn't even answer on that one ...
Am I wrong Mr itchouuu & some of your best @#$%& friends ??? Or was it just a test??
"You" are so vain...& pathetic .


HM ,once again , & long life to your blog .You rock & you rule ,man !!!!
"They " are just jealous guys ,you were right .



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .



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Gintaine
According to Hoffmann there's a different version of the well-known acoustic Stripped version of Wild Horses.
Supposed to be included on the bootleg 2CD 'Ich Möchte Euch Bis Nach Köln Hören' (VGP-216).
But this is not true if you watch the track list.

It's a "bonus track", and therefor not listed on the artwork

Did you post on the right thread, Sway?


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

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Deltics

Did you post on the right thread, Sway?

Yes Deltics , I 've posted on the right thread & I know precisely what I am talking about .



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

OK, fair enough, I'll duck back down behind the parapet then!


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

It's a "bonus track", and therefor not listed on the artwork


Yep cough..cough YAWN... Erik has it right .... bonus hidden away on end of 2nd disc....yawnnnn

....2CD 'Ich Möchte Euch Bis Nach Köln Hören' VGP216

ROCKMAN

Erik_Snow & Rockman,

yeah, but is it a true Stones one or is it a fake?

Sounds fake or maybe Keith dared Mick to pretend he was Brando pretending he was Mick ....

ROCKMAN

Yes as Rockman says - it's fake....and the vocal is horrible

Thanks Rockman & Erik_Snow

Forgive me for repeating myself: does this mean that the royal Stones connaisseurs Hoffmann & Zentgraf & Aeppli are wrong - all three - on the same topic!!!

Nico, how about an update?

950303B 3rd - 5th March: Tokyo, Japan, Toshiba-EMI Studios. Producers: Don Was &
The Glimmer Twins. Sound engineer: Ed Cherney. Additional musicians: Darryl
Jones (bass)/Chuck Leavell (keyb)/Bernard Fowler (bvoc)/Lisa Fisher (bvoc)/
Bobby Keys and The New West Horns (brass) on Slipping Away. Incl.
- Angie (MJ/KR) -unverified
- Beast Of Burden (MJ/KR)
- Heartbeat (Bob Montgomery/Norman Petty) -unverified
- Honest I Do (Jimmy Reed)
- I’m Left, You’re Right, She’s Gone (Kesler/Taylor) -unverified
- The Last Time (MJ/KR) -unverified
- Let It Bleed (MJ/KR)
- Let’s Spend The Night Together (MJ/KR)
- Little Baby (Willie Dixon)
- Love In Vain (Robert Johnson)
- Make No Mistake (KR/Steve Jordan) -unverified
- Memory Motel (MJ/KR)
- No Expectations (MJ/KR)
- Parachute Woman (MJ/KR) -unverified
- Slipping Away (MJ/KR)
- The Spider And The Fly (MJ/KR)
- Wild Horses 1 (MJ/KR) -alternate version
- Wild Horses 2 (MJ/KR) -Stripped version
- Wild Horses 3 (MJ/KR) -edit of version 2
- The Worst (MJ/KR) -unverified
Note: Parts of the sessions were filmed.

Could it be the same bunch who forged the MJ'88 tape issued on a TSP cd?
(Through The Years - Mick Jagger tsp-191)



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Just heard the track, thanks ever so much to midnrambler [www.iorr.org]

This is 100% Stones.

Rockman & Erik_Snow, how could you go wrong on this?

There is indeed a reason why Hoffmann & Zentgraf & Aeppli are the royal Stones connaisseurs...

A true gem this track is!

You may be right .... but something strange with Mick's vocals

ROCKMAN

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Just heard the track, thanks ever so much to midnrambler [www.iorr.org]

This is 100% Stones.

Rockman & Erik_Snow, how could you go wrong on this?

There is indeed a reason why Hoffmann & Zentgraf & Aeppli are the royal Stones connaisseurs...

A true gem this track is!

THe megaupload-link is not working at the moment, but we can't possible be speaking about the same "Wild Horses"; as it's definately not Mick singing on the version I once had.

I don't collect BridgesToBabylon-Tour-CDs -in fact I have given away the few ones I had, so I don't have a copy of VGP-216

....I look forward to download once megaupload is working again

It's the bonus track from VGP-216 that I uploaded and this is neither Mick nor the Rolling Stones. Just like "Coming On Strong" on VGP-361...

Finally got to download. That is the same version as the one I heard before.
I'll say: It's NOT Mick Jagger singing.

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midnrambler
It's the bonus track from VGP-216 that I uploaded and this is neither Mick nor the Rolling Stones. Just like "Coming On Strong" on VGP-361...

Indeed it's a fake. Wonder how VGP could fall for this

Its not the stones
No trademark of Quality here.

Blah...


Come What May

Okay, let's have it, let's do the IORR voting game.

Mick on lead vocal:
[X] YES, [ ] NO

Oh, by the way, not voting means "NO"

what abouth the other songs from te toschiba session?

make no mistake
parachute woman
the worst
etc...

any one have it? or was it posted anytime before? i´d like to know, because i haven´t heard the songs from this session until now..

i have the "stripped companion" disc - but there are the mentioned songs not included!!
thanx for your help!

I'm voting NO. Sorry, wish it was genuine, but it doesn't sound it to me.

Clearly not Mick. The voice is very similar, but it is apparent that the singer tries a bit too hard to imitate Micks phrasings. It just doesnt sound natural. The backing vocals in the chorus finally reveal that its a fake, sounding so definitely "un-stonesy".



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Gintaine
Just heard the track, thanks ever so much to midnrambler [www.iorr.org]

This is 100% Stones.

Rockman & Erik_Snow, how could you go wrong on this?

There is indeed a reason why Hoffmann & Zentgraf & Aeppli are the royal Stones connaisseurs...

A true gem this track is!

not to destroy your illusions, but this is very clearly not mick singing...the phrasing is trying to copy the stones 1:1 and that makes it sound very forced at times. clearly not mick and also the drum and guitar parts don't come natural enough. Not a bad effort and it seems good enough to fool people even on iorr.org



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