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Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: WeLoveYou ()
Date: September 15, 2010 16:19

Yes, really makes the track in the later parts of the song. I don't think it originates from a stringed instrument.

Perhaps it's a real flute or recorder. But I agree the bends are a little mystifying...

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: WeLoveYou ()
Date: September 15, 2010 16:23

It could even be a mellatron

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: September 15, 2010 16:24

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WeLoveYou
Yes, really makes the track in the later parts of the song. I don't think it originates from a stringed instrument.

Perhaps it's a real flute or recorder. But I agree the bends are a little mystifying...

Could be flute from Mr Keys, but a bend like that on a flute, hmmm...

The mystery only adds to it all, finding out it's a tin whistle might spoil things. grinning smiley

EDIT: I doubt it's a mellotron, nothing really mellotronic about it, too smooth and in tune, the pitch bend being a bit too correct etc. Might be a setting on a monophonic synth, lots of version with pitch bend capabilities!?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2010-09-15 16:29 by His Majesty.

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: September 15, 2010 19:07

I'm guessing but based on what I hear it's a guitar through a wah wah with a tremelo bar. But it does sound like a flute.

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: cc ()
Date: September 15, 2010 19:57

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RobberBride

Question though: How long did the selfimposed exile after moving to France really last? For some reason I always assumed RS recorded in Jamaica, Rotterdam, Paris +++ for the same "tax-exiled" purpose as on EOMS. However, according to the info above, during the GHS sessions they were back in London working in 1973. Thoughts on that?

good question, but off-topic: how about starting a separate thread? It'll get more attention.


yeah, I guess I just find this song too self-pitying to really admire and enjoy, though I do like it. A bit too directly confessional for the Stones.

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: WeLoveYou ()
Date: September 22, 2010 17:01

It sounds like a keyboard with a flute sound. When the note is held then after a certain time a tremelo or vibrato kicks in, this suggests it's a keybaord. There are three or four flute notes sounding together. Or...it could be a real flute overdubbed a few times.

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 18, 2014 07:05

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WeLoveYou
It sounds like a keyboard with a flute sound. When the note is held then after a certain time a tremelo or vibrato kicks in, this suggests it's a keybaord. There are three or four flute notes sounding together. Or...it could be a real flute overdubbed a few times.

Came back to this after being in a certain frame of mind.

Seems most likely to be two alto flutes played by Jim Horn, at least one on each speaker. They are played at various points through out the track.

However, there is, on occasions something underneath them.

Wonderful, subtle additions.

I've asked through his official site and hope to get a reply about it. He's credited with flute on the album, but they go lower than a standard flute on the track so it makes sense for it to be an alto flute.

smiling smiley



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2014-02-18 07:09 by His Majesty.

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Date: February 18, 2014 09:25

It would definitely make sense, imo.

A lovely track. Deserves to be played live.

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Date: February 18, 2014 12:41

Love the flutes on Can You Hear The Music + the lovely piano thumbs up

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 18, 2014 17:37

Listening to this on repeat epeat peat eat at t...

The ever moving sonic texture on this is so damn captivating and hypnotic. A warm and beautiful, but bitter sweet place to be.

Life reflections as sound.

I'm ranking this right up with my No.1 favourite Ruby Tuesday.

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Date: February 18, 2014 17:38

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His Majesty
Listening to this on repeat epeat peat eat at t...

The ever moving sonic texture on this is so damn captivating and hypnotic. A warm and beautiful, but bitter sweet place to be.

Life reflections as sound.

I'm ranking this right up with my No.1 favourite Ruby Tuesday.

thumbs up

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: runaway ()
Date: February 18, 2014 18:13

Coming Down Again-I love this track.

my source adds: Rebop and Chuck Finley in the line-up.

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 18, 2014 19:19

Hehe, got a reply. cool smiley

"Hey Philip,
That was a long time ago.
I'm sure that was me because Bobby Keys doesn't play flute.
That sure is a long song.
Cheers, Jim."


thumbs up

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Date: February 18, 2014 23:15

thumbs up

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: February 19, 2014 18:29

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His Majesty

I'm ranking this right up with my No.1 favourite Ruby Tuesday.

Are you nuts or something. As much as I love CDA (great GHS mood catching song), RT is still of a higher level. But CDA beats Happy by miles!

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Date: February 19, 2014 18:55

Best track on GHS - by a mile thumbs up

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: February 19, 2014 20:06

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DandelionPowderman
Best track on GHS - by a mile thumbs up

You nutcase eh ... keithcase grinning smiley

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 19, 2014 20:32

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DandelionPowderman
Best track on GHS - by a mile thumbs up

Certainly the most emotional and genuine emotionally.

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Date: February 19, 2014 22:08

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kleermaker
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Best track on GHS - by a mile thumbs up

You nutcase eh ... keithcase grinning smiley

Mick sings on it as well grinning smiley

A masterpiece. I saw that Jim Horne also is playing on Keith's coming album...

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: slew ()
Date: February 19, 2014 22:18

I like Coming Down again better than Ruby Tuesday as well!

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: February 19, 2014 22:21

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DandelionPowderman
Quote
kleermaker
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Best track on GHS - by a mile thumbs up

You nutcase eh ... keithcase grinning smiley

Mick sings on it as well grinning smiley

Never heard that grinning smiley
Great bass though.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-02-19 22:23 by kleermaker.

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: February 19, 2014 22:46

Coming Down Again is a far better tune than Ruby Tuesday. Only The Stones could've released a tune like CDA, whereas RT could almost anyone with a guitar or piano come up with. Only the b flat moment in the Chorus of RT is somewhat "impressive, Godlike". CDA is Godlike Through and Through.

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: February 19, 2014 22:50

CDA is great, but I like 100 years ago more, it's catching the special GHS mood even better: nostalgia in optima forma.

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: GOO ()
Date: February 19, 2014 23:05

Would love to hear just an instrumental version with jagger back ground vocal

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Date: February 19, 2014 23:49

You don't like Keith's vocals on this one? Maybe his best vocals ever, imo.

Mick's vocals are great as well.

I take it you're joking, kleerie? The bass is overplaying grinning smiley

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: February 19, 2014 23:57

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DandelionPowderman
You don't like Keith's vocals on this one? Maybe his best vocals ever, imo.

Mick's vocals are great as well.

I take it you're joking, kleerie? The bass is overplaying grinning smiley

Keith and the bass are both simply ace. Mick could be missed, it's Keith's song.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-02-20 00:02 by kleermaker.

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Date: February 20, 2014 00:00

I love the vocals that is answering Keith as well as the falsetto. Beautiful stuff.

The bass is great, of course.

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: February 20, 2014 00:03

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DandelionPowderman
I love the vocals that is answering Keith as well as the falsetto. Beautiful stuff.

The bass is great, of course.

Edited: ace grinning smiley

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Date: February 20, 2014 00:11

Not to mention the stellar guitars grinning smiley

Re: Track Talk: Coming Down Again
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 20, 2014 00:17

The busy bass adds to the constant motion. thumbs up More typical approach would have made this track more normal and boring.

I can imagine it being played now, basic sustained root notes and a couple of A-typical pentatonic fills, zzzz.

Busy bass for the win. smoking smiley



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2014-02-20 00:20 by His Majesty.

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